lightning1
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I never claimed you said any thing remotely close to that. Show me where I claimed that you said that or STFU. You got caught. Own it. You don't know jack shit about basketball. You just won't admit it. You never could.
Best 3pt shooting team in Fran Era?
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tksirius
HN's Love Doctor
Speaking of that, I'm not purchasing BTN Plus. If it looks like we're a much-improved team defensively, I'll maybe consider buying it for the game in December that's on BTNPlus.
I make a simple statement saying turnovers happen more trying to get the ball inside. Your response was if we turn the ball over trying to get inside, we should pull their scholarships. That ridiculous blanket statement is what started this. My response was if we cant shoot 3s because of fear of not getting back. It was a ridiculous blanket statement made to mock yours.
tksirius
HN's Love Doctor
Well, the president of the Ferentz Fan Club just wrote an article. Apparently just making the NCAA tournament is all we should expect. At least the players have higher expectations:
(Dailey flashes back to what this junior class discussed as freshmen: Winning a Big Ten championship.
On the heels of 14-19, that goal hasn’t changed.
“We’re going to put it all together this year,” Dailey says. “This is the year.”)
BTW, FFC president agrees that we're not young anymore.
(Dailey flashes back to what this junior class discussed as freshmen: Winning a Big Ten championship.
On the heels of 14-19, that goal hasn’t changed.
“We’re going to put it all together this year,” Dailey says. “This is the year.”)
BTW, FFC president agrees that we're not young anymore.
lightning1
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Yeah...YOU made the original ridiculous blanket statement about passing the ball inside leading to turnovers. You should stop discussing basketball coaching strategy after making a statement like that. My statement about shooting 3 pt shots leading to long rebounds and easier run out offense...is a statement of fact. Call any basketball coach and ask. Google it.
Answer this question: If you can choose to start your offense above the FT line or under the basket for a fast break, which one do you choose?
Therefore, if you already have a bad defensive team and you are looking for ways to play better defense, you could shoot fewer 3 pt shots. leading to fewer run out baskets by the other team.
I explained this thoroughly. I'm not at all surprised that you don't get it.
I also explained that we actually have the roster in place (hint: Cook/Garza) to facilitate an inside - out offensive approach. And how the combination of utilizing Cook/Garza more and shooting less 3 pt shots = easier to get back and set up your defense.
I'm not surprised you can't grasp that either.
Cheers to you, brother. Here's hoping you get your wish and we chuck more 3pt shots this season.
lightning1
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That's actually a very encouraging article. It would be more encouraging if the entire team had watched every game 3 times and discussed the defensive lapses. The question is if Dailey has made playing defense a priority, who is Fran going to sit in order to let Dailey be that guy? Is it Moss, Bohannon, Connor or JW? How is the guy slated to get the fewest minutes going to transform a defense?Well, the president of the Ferentz Fan Club just wrote an article. Apparently just making the NCAA tournament is all we should expect. At least the players have higher expectations:
(Dailey flashes back to what this junior class discussed as freshmen: Winning a Big Ten championship.
On the heels of 14-19, that goal hasn’t changed.
“We’re going to put it all together this year,” Dailey says. “This is the year.”)
BTW, FFC president agrees that we're not young anymore.
lightning1
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Essential characteristics of a championship team by Pat Summit.
"Offense sells tickets, defense wins games, rebounding wins championships. You might have an off shooting night but you should never have a bad night on defense or rebounding"
"Offense sells tickets, defense wins games, rebounding wins championships. You might have an off shooting night but you should never have a bad night on defense or rebounding"
NikeHawk21
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I don’t think he deals well in sarcasm or when someone is mocking him.
Remember this is the guy who’s eyes told him that Juwan McCloud was by far the better PG at PTL over JBo. That has turned out to be one of the dumber statements in the history of this board, and there have been some doozies. Even so he still considers himself a reincarnation of James Naismith.
The best part about this current spat is that Iowa was an interior dominated team last year that didn’t shoot many threes, the stats bear that out. Even with that they were horrendous on defense. This thread was talking about the fact that they will probably be a better three point shooting team this year with the addition of Weiskamp, that doesn’t mean that we are going to completely turn away from Cook or Garza either. Hard to have a sane conversation around here sometimes.
Northside Hawk
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If nothing else, Cordell definitely looks slimmed down in that picture.Well, the president of the Ferentz Fan Club just wrote an article. Apparently just making the NCAA tournament is all we should expect. At least the players have higher expectations:
(Dailey flashes back to what this junior class discussed as freshmen: Winning a Big Ten championship.
On the heels of 14-19, that goal hasn’t changed.
“We’re going to put it all together this year,” Dailey says. “This is the year.”)
BTW, FFC president agrees that we're not young anymore.
I heard rumblings that he may get minutes at the three, sharing them with Wiescamp or backing him up. All we can do is let them lace em up and see what happens.
Northside Hawk
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NikeHawk21
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If Cordell Pemsl logs a single minute at the 3 position this year I will puke in my lap.
tksirius
HN's Love Doctor
Just as dumb as Fran thinking Nunge was a 3. It's like Fran doesn't have a clue how to evaluate post players.
lightning1
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He certainly appeared to be the better PG in the PTL. Unlike some of you idiots, I can admit when I'm wrong. Bohannon wouldn't log a single minute at PG, for a team I was coaching. Not unless the rest of the back court got injured. If you can't guard the PG position, you can't play the PG position. He's got a losing record as the starting PG at Iowa. He's 33 - 34. Juwan McLoud is 30 - 32.
hawkdrummer1
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Whoa, that's putting it out there, Chad. And I would tend to agree with him.
Northside Hawk
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I can't argue, but I got a feeling that the coaches are leaning that way. Why else would he slim down that much. There's certainly no room for him at the four or five, even in a reserve role.
I thought he was most effective his freshman year when he weighed 255 and could use his caboose to seal his defender off and convert unorthodox shots around the basket. Once the league figured him out he could never counter adjust. And the downward spiral of confidence began.
I'm rooting for him. Heck I went to grade school with his aunt. I played pickup games with another aunt Heidi (as well as Amy Herrig) But his skill set at the end of the day is more suitable for a Missouri Valley or Horizon League school. At the Big Ten level he is the absolute poster child for 'tweener. And if he is getting more than Dom Uhl type minutes this year we're in trouble.
NikeHawk21
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I admit when I’m wrong all the time. I thought Iowa would make the dance last year.
How is that Jordan Bohannon, as the PG, led Iowa to back to back wins against ranked teams @ Maryland and @ UW as a true freshman on one of the youngest teams in the country, including the game winner @ UW, but according to you he should never ever play? In that game against Maryland, he scored 24, while his counterpart Melo Trimble scored 10 on 4-13 shooting. But you insist he would never play.
At a certain point it just seems like you have some extreme distaste for JBo. His defense is bad, most agree, but his offense often times makes up for it. I don’t think the entirety of the losses last season or the last two seasons can be put on JBo and his shortcomings. He’s had certain issues, but so has Cook, and so has Fran and so has every part of this team for that matter.
NikeHawk21
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I always felt he was a tweener in the sense that he plays like a 5 but has the height of a 4. I think that’s why he slimmed down to try to be able to run with 4s. The problem is as you said there isn’t any room at the 4 for him.
The 3? The guy hasn’t hit a jump shot in two years, no thanks (see how that worked with Wagner who was twice the athlete).
I’ve been saying since during the season last year that Fran should cut him or Kriener or potentially both out of the frontcourt rotation and stick with Garza, Cook, and Nunge. Unfortunately Fran probably won’t do that.
lightning1
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My rule is pretty simple. If you can't guard the position, you can't play the position. If I'm a D-1 head coach, I'm not recruiting Bohannon to play PG for me. I'm just not. I'm a defensive minded coach. I'm a big fan of effort. I believe that the PG sets the tone for the entire defense. That might explain why I'm hard on Bohannon.
NikeHawk21
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Okay. Cook has shown zero, and I mean zero ability or desire to defend the 4 position in the two years he’s been at Iowa. Should we cut him too?
Also worth mentioning there is nothing written that says JBo has to guard the other teams Pg. For instance when we play MSU in a month or so, it will probably make sense to put our best perimeter defender (not sure who that is at this point) on Winston. Winston is the head of that snake and what makes Sparty go. JBo can chase around Langford who is a jump shooter primarily and guard Mcquaid who is also a jump shooter and not much of a threat offensively when he is in there. As a coach you think you’d understand that.
JG10Hawk
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Would you recruit Steve Nash?
