Beau Corrales decommits

Settle down guys. KF just proved we can beat the #3 team in the nation without the use of WR. We don't need them. We even beat them without a QB.

We just need some Iowa farm boys up front, don't even need scholarships for them as we proved WalkOns can take down the mighty 5* Michigan DL.

Throw in a slippery to tackle RB who can account for 70% of the offense, and we've got ourselves a top 50 program.

20PPG for the offense in Big10 play. That's how it was meant to be played. In 1940
 
Hawk5656 said:
You try to tell kids not to take visits and do anything you can to make sure it doesn't happen but having a "no visit policy" in this day of age is just stupid. I honestly don't know how you can defend it with what's happened.
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That is because you won't look at anything beyond your own myopic vision. When I tried to explain to you that Corrales was "blowing up" and other schools were checking him out. Your one and only response was, welp Rivals doesn't list those schools as offering. Yep, you are exactly right, and at the same time you are and were so, so wrong. Other schools where hitting him up, gauging his interest and trying to see if he was open to listening to them. If Corrales slams the door shut and says he is committed to Iowa, then they don't make headway. If Corrales opens the door a little, and says "well maybe", then the schools just banging on the door super hard until they can get him to open the door all the way for them.

Once it is at that point, if a kid opens that door, he wants the others schools in, it isn't about a "visit" or "no visit" policy. It is about the kid is truly undecided again and has to figure it out. Once again, that's cool, Iowa does that to other kids as well, they know the game.

I find it hard to believe that an adult like you can actually think that someone just wants to take a visit just because they were told they couldn't? That is insulting to the kid, and I'm not sure why you feel like you need to degrade them like that.
 
DBAHawkFan said:
Settle down guys.
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You know what my dad said to me when I brought this girl home wearing an engagement ring????

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NEVER SETTLE!!!!
 
Kirk hasn't figured out the importance that people and personalities play in the recruiting game.
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deanvogs said:
Unlike the haters, I understand where blame lies. First and foremost blame always ends at Kirk, he is in charge, and keeping GD is his choice.

I disagree on the visit policy though, and it has nothing to do with KF. If Matt Campbell for instance is just letting commits take visits to other schools, he is not doing his job. As soon as a commit says he wants to visit another school, then he should be working 24/7 to convince the kid that ISU is the place for him, and that he shouldn't take that visit. If he can stop that visit, he has a way greater % chance to keep that kid at ISU come signing day. If that kid take an official visit to another school, the % chance of ISU signing them is now much less.

It is simply the way it is. If you can't sell a kid from taking another visit, he isn't "committed" to you anyway, he wants to go elsewhere. That is fine, that is his prerogative. Yet to think that letting all your commits take official visits everywhere is a good policy, I just don't see it that way. I think ultimately you would lose way more recruits if you let them do this. This has nothing to do with KF for me.
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But Dean, by the same logic isn't our staff not doing their job by losing these commitments. Whether it be a failure to stay in contact with a recruit or continuing to recruit them after they've committed, I get that, but IMO its as much a failure on the staff's part in not being able to keep these recruits.

I'm not saying it wouldn't have happened, but I think Eno decommitting in addition to failing to meet expectations started a domino effect. And whether I like the policy or not, I think its played a huge role in what is going on right now. Whether just or not (you know where I stand) once we lost Eno and Calloway the writing was on the wall that the future wasn't as bright as it appeared which may have influenced the recruits to start looking. While it may or may not be a stupid policy (already debated) the fact is that had things gone differently the repercussions may not have been so severe if Eno simply signed elsewhere rather than decommitting and bringing the visiting policy into the spotlight.
 
Hard to believe that Corrales was undervalued in Texas, doesn't make much sense w how that state is recruited and evaluated. Martin's ascension is very very different. And it's not like Iowa wouldn't have contingency plans for players decommitting. Now it might not be who the public likes
 
There are kids in the states (CA, TX, FL, etc.) with a lot of D-I prospects that get overshadowed. We've done well with some of those kids through the years. Northwestern is doing well with one. Austin Carr played high school ball in CA and walked on.
 
This is completely different than the Eno situation. Eno had his pick of the litter and still decided to go to Iowa because he loved them that much. This kid had no other options so he settled on Iowa, then got other options after the fact. There probably wasn't much that could have been done here to prevent this.
 
And what's with the posts in here talking about ISU recruiting? You can't just point out one guy that they did get and one guy we didn't get and pretend that means they are doing a better job.
 
deanvogs said:
Iowa didn't let go of Corrales, he decided he wanted to open up his commitment. Maybe he decided Iowa was too far away, maybe he decided Iowa schemes doesn't match what he wants, maybe the staff ignored him like 56 and TK will present, could be a million things. The bottom line is he wants to look around, and so he should.
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Right. It could be a million things.

But if the kid had some integrity and didn't want to lie and just wanted to visit other schools to test the waters then the policy forced him into de-committing to be true to the terms.

If the arcane and stupid policy is not in place - yes - we may still lose him but there is a possibility that he looks around and realizes that Iowa, still, is his choice.

At least you still stand a chance with the second scenario.
 
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Why is everyone complaining about Corrales? Aren't all of you saying that recruits should be allowed to visit other schools without their offer being pulled? That is exactly what is happening here and nearly always happens. Corrales still has an Iowa offer, Iowa is still recruiting him and he will be taking other visits. Heck his dad says that Iowa is still #1 for him.

The dirty little secret is that Iowa doesn't pull offers for taking other visits historically. It has been like that for years sans one exception.....Eno, we did pull his offer after 2 official visits.

Noah Fant visited Nebraska
Ross P visited Bama and Stanford
Delano Hill visited ND and Michigan
Karan Hidgon visited Michigan
Drew Ott visited Nebraska but never had or got a Nebraska offer that he wanted
Eno Benjamin visited Missouri and ASU
Chevin Calloway visited Texas, Nebraska, and Arkansas
Beau Correles will visit other schools and his offer is still on the table

If anyone can explain to me how this equates to a hard policy that offers will be pulled if they visit other schools, when it has only happened 1 out of the last 8 times it occurred, I'm willing to listen.
 
The only thing I keep trying to explain is that once they want to take other visits, they are basically gone. In only 1 out of 7 examples above did Iowa end up/will end up signing the kid. Ott took a visit to a school who never offered, so he didn't even have a choice.

It is like if you are dating a girl and she says "well lets just date other people for awhile". I'm guessing, percentage wise, that usually doesn't works out great for the existing couple.....The person who wants to do that isn't trilled where the relationship is and feels there is a good chance they will find something they like better out there. If you are happy with who you are with, and are confident in your decision, you don't go dating others. Plus the bottom line is if you can't convince her to NOT date other people, just how confident are you that she will be coming back in a few months?
 
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