Are we the third best team in Iowa?

How is he pretty damn good? He's a poor defender, hasn't shot the ball well and turns the ball over too much. Thomas had a 9.6 PER as a freshman and Dean and I agree he was terrible that year but Bohannon has a 9.8 PER and he's pretty damn good. Who's looking silly now.

Ummm, where did I say Thomas was terrible? You said you like him, I pointed out his PER as a Fr. was the same as Jordan's. You then tried to cover by calling Thomas a bust (which he clearly is not and I never said he was, and I said he wasn't a bust). Lots of very good players aren't as good as Fr. as they are Jr/Sr.
 
Ummm, where did I say Thomas was terrible? You said you like him, I pointed out his PER as a Fr. was the same as Jordan's. You then tried to cover by calling Thomas a bust (which he clearly is not and I never said he was, and I said he wasn't a bust). Lots of very good players aren't as good as Fr. as they are Jr/Sr.

You think Thomas wasn't terrible as a freshman?
 
Obviously I'm right, if I was wrong I'd admit it just like I did with Moss.

You didn't admit anything with Moss. You do what you always do, just shift what you are saying. You shifted it to Moss "won't be all conference". I called you on your shit and you had to back down, because I had it in black and white that you called him a bust.

Same with Jordan. You started before the season and called him terrible. You have moved the goalposts the entire time. When pointed out that Jordan is doing many things as well as Mike or better, you simply will only talk about Jordan's D.

It is the same pattern. You are a stupid predictable Troll, and I will just slowly continue to pin you down, and your excuses will become less and less tenable. Moss is a great example, it happened quickly. Bohannon you are gonna go kicking and screaming into the goodnight. I even asked you what Jordan has to Avg. to be an "ok" PG. You wouldn't set any bench marks and then actually made the stupid comment that if they don't make the NCAA's that Jordan is a bust. LOLOLOLOL.....
 
You didn't admit anything with Moss. You do what you always do, just shift what you are saying. You shifted it to Moss "won't be all conference". I called you on your shit and you had to back down, because I had it in black and white that you called him a bust.

Same with Jordan. You started before the season and called him terrible. You have moved the goalposts the entire time. When pointed out that Jordan is doing many things as well as Mike or better, you simply will only talk about Jordan's D.

It is the same pattern. You are a stupid predictable Troll, and I will just slowly continue to pin you down, and your excuses will become less and less tenable. Moss is a great example, it happened quickly. Bohannon you are gonna go kicking and screaming into the goodnight. I even asked you what Jordan has to Avg. to be an "ok" PG. You wouldn't set any bench marks and then actually made the stupid comment that if they don't make the NCAA's that Jordan is a bust. LOLOLOLOL.....

I said I was wrong about Moss. I don't think he'll be an all conference player but he might, who knows. Still don't know why he redshirted last year. I'm not sure what Jordan does better than Mike. He has more assists but when you have Jok those aren't "impressive" assists like PC said.
 
I said I was wrong about Moss. I don't think he'll be an all conference player but he might, who knows. Still don't know why he redshirted last year. I'm not sure what Jordan does better than Mike. He has more assists but when you have Jok those aren't "impressive" assists like PC said.

You think Mike had the same range and 3 point shooting abilities that Jordan does? Wow, that is crazy stupid if you think that. Mike could barely hit water from 3....Jordan is a better assist man because of his shooting abilities and how it opens up spacing for the rest of the team.
 
You think Mike had the same range and 3 point shooting abilities that Jordan does? Wow, that is crazy stupid if you think that. Mike could barely hit water from 3....Jordan is a better assist man because of his shooting abilities and how it opens up spacing for the rest of the team.

He's a better 3 pt shooter than Mike. Free throws too. That's about all I can think of
 
You forgot to answer this question

I'm not gonna waste a bunch of time talking about Thomas, so I will just say this and drop the Thomas topic.

Thomas is much like Peter Jok. Both didn't shoot it extremely well their Fr./So. years. (35 and 34% for Jok) and (34 and 33% for Thomas) and it was very easy to see that both were going to be good players. Both struggled defensively big time. Neither really found a groove until their Jr. years.

You seem to lack the ability to understand that Fr. typically struggle. You wanna point at a few of the top 50-75 kids and pretend that this is the norm, and that all Fr. coming in are supposed to just light it up or they are busts. I would guarantee that you would have called Jok and Thomas bust as Fr. You branded Bohannon and Moss busts before they played 1 min. of BB. You would have crucified those two for their Fr. year, because you have no BB IQ at all.
 
I'm not gonna waste a bunch of time talking about Thomas, so I will just say this and drop the Thomas topic.

Thomas is much like Peter Jok. Both didn't shoot it extremely well their Fr./So. years. (35 and 34% for Jok) and (34 and 33% for Thomas) and it was very easy to see that both were going to be good players. Both struggled defensively big time. Neither really found a groove until their Jr. years.

You seem to lack the ability to understand that Fr. typically struggle. You wanna point at a few of the top 50-75 kids and pretend that this is the norm, and that all Fr. coming in are supposed to just light it up or they are busts. I would guarantee that you would have called Jok and Thomas bust as Fr. You branded Bohannon and Moss busts before they played 1 min. of BB. You would have crucified those two for their Fr. year, because you have no BB IQ at all.

I'll answer it for you, Thomas was terrible as a freshman and I appreciate you bringing it up that his PER is comparable to Bohannon's. I do agree with you that freshman typically struggle and Bohannon certainly has this year so far.
 
Some people think you should ignore trolls because feeding them is exactly what they want. Not me. I look forward to these threads more than anything else on this board. I love responding and I love reading the responses.
 
I was at the Iowa State game and I know he got abused by Thomas out of the gate, no clue why Fran would put him on him in the first place and I know he gave up at least two 3's to Long for sure. By the way why is it every time he makes a 3 he has to do some celebration like he just won a national title. I think that whole team is a bunch of prima donnas outside of Thomas. I can at least respect the way he plays the game

JB over helped and left Thomas open for a 3. That is hardly abusing him. Whoever get burned off the dribble to force JB to help was equally responsible for that. One basket was a pretty tough pull up jumper where JB was right there and made it a difficult shot that he happened to make. Again that wasn't JB getting abused. I don't remember what the 3rd basket was.
 
JB over helped and left Thomas open for a 3. That is hardly abusing him. Whoever get burned off the dribble to force JB to help was equally responsible for that. One basket was a pretty tough pull up jumper where JB was right there and made it a difficult shot that he happened to make. Again that wasn't JB getting abused. I don't remember what the 3rd basket was.

Leaving Thomas open for a 3 by being late on a close out is really good defense. Dean even will admit Thomas abused him because he didn't have the size and strength to match up with him so they moved him off of him after 4 minutes
 
Because of the first 6 games or so, JB's stats, along with the team stats, will still be a little worse than what they actually should be at the end of the year when they account for 20% of the season. Right now they look way worse than they actually are because those games count as 50% of their season to date. If JB has a great game Wednesday, is conference stats are going to be awesome. If he has a bad game, you will be on here posting conference stats to prove he sucks.
 
Leaving Thomas open for a 3 by being late on a close out is really good defense. Dean even will admit Thomas abused him because he didn't have the size and strength to match up with him so they moved him off of him after 4 minutes

It was bad defense and credit to Thomas for making an open shot, but when a guy spots up for 3 and makes a wide open shot, that means he abused him? JB over helped (something I've seen Mike and every other basketball player do 1000 times) and it was a mental mistake. It doesn't prove he sucks at defense.
 

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