Any updates on Gibson?
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I like keeping tabs on Hawkeye recruiting, thought some here might like the opposite.
No. That's just your over-inflated prediction, so that when we don't reach it, you can make fun of us.
We should be good, but we won't win 30.
brjohnson23
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I think it is great to get a talented player to commit to your school. It is a necessity to have talented players, that is obvious. But that is just one component to success. It is just as important if not more important to be able to put parts together and mold then into a unit where everyone fills their role. You also have to include player development into the equation. I think these are the two things that separate good from great. I like the kind of players that Fran is recruiting and signing. They look to be talented enough to compete at a high level and I believe in Fran and his staff to mold and develop. I think we will see that this year. Both the Hawks and Clones are assembling good talent. Only time will tell who can put it all together. Go Hawks!
Tim Grover said previously he thinks he'll be in the NBA. Like it or not it's not just ISU fans that think he'll be good. And I think he'll be decent this year but improve in the years to come... he hasn't played basketball for two years.
busabus114
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What are the current expectations by the masses in Cyclone Nation? Would 18 or 19 wins and an NIT bid be considered a success?
I'd like to see 20 wins, but I could be happy with that.
After the disaster that was McDermott, yes, I would consider NIT a success. No Cyclone fan can honestly say we are going to win 30 and win the Big 12. NO WAY. Some are saying NCAA. I would be ecstatic with that, and that would exceed my expectations... by far. If we still had a proven PG that was Garrett, this team would be dangerous. We have players, but we need to make sure they play together. I am expecting a winning record, both overall and Big 12, and some sort of post season play. I think most ISU fans would agree.
ISUonthemove
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I think there are a lot of fans who think we will be around 23-25 wins, and sneak into the Dance. I think that's possible, but it's going to be really tough not playing NU and CU 4 times. Biggest question in PG, IMO. If we have solid play at PG, I could see us getting to 20-23 wins.
busabus114
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I agree with you but I think 23-25 wins is way to high to expect. 18-20 seems reasonable
Cyclones17
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No it would not be a success to ISU fans. The ISU fans that are on here saying it would be a success, IMO, are saying that b/c of what happened 2 years ago. Craig Brackins returned for his junior year, we brought in Gilstrap, Dendy, and Colvin. People expected us to be a bubble team and we blew expectations and stunk. So I think ISU fans are very gun shy about predicting us to have a good season and rightfully so to a point.
That season was a failure and I think not making the NCAA tourney this year would be a failure as well. Fans are just afraid of letting the excitement of high expectations crash down on them again.
I can't guess a W/L total as I have not seen our schedule yet but I will guess low 20's.
SteveGarvey
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I have to admit, I'm a little envious. I think Fran's done a good job recruiting and certainly things are better in that regard compared to the Lick era but I'd have to say that Fred's done a little better, at least on paper. Course, things can change in a hurry.
HawkeyeMike23
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Where do you see ISU finishing in the B12? Top 4?
I don't see a top 4 finish at all. 5th or 6th would be nice and if it's 6th hope like hell for a break with the NCAA tournament committee.
I think it comes down to winning all but maybe 1-2 conference home games and winning about 2-3 on the road. Nebraska and Colorado will be missed. The new Big 12 and the home-and-home conference schedule is hard to figure until we go through it once.
It hasn't been this way since the Big 8. I'm pumped to see every team in the conference at least once at Hilton.
I think it comes down to winning all but maybe 1-2 conference home games and winning about 2-3 on the road. Nebraska and Colorado will be missed. The new Big 12 and the home-and-home conference schedule is hard to figure until we go through it once.
It hasn't been this way since the Big 8. I'm pumped to see every team in the conference at least once at Hilton.
If Lutz was still around, I would probably agree with you. And while I'm confident that Fred's game coaching ability has improved by leaps and bounds since he first arrived, the loss of a guy like Lutz is going to be felt, and expectations have to be tempered slightly, to the tune of a couple of would be wins, that are now losses, hence the difference between a 22-23 win season and and NCAA berth and a 19-20 win season with a NIT bid.
Cyclones17
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Good question. I"m not really sure. I feel comfortable saying we will be better than TT, Oklahoma, K State, and OSU.
TT, OU, A&M, and Mizzou are all breaking in new coaches. Some are very good coaches but it's still a new regime.
Kansas loses 6 guys that played major minutes. Still Kansas but will be the weakest Kansas team since Bill Self has been there.
Texas, Baylor, Mizzou, and A&M will return a ton of talent.
In the end I see us anywhere from 3rd-6th. Yep I am drinking the koolaid so to speak but what I keep coming back to is that all our guys will be 3 years older than most the guys they are playing against. I think that is huge. Allen will be a 5th yr senior. Babb a 4th year junior. White will be 21. Etc. I think that will play a major role in this team and the fact that they have had a year of playing together where as most teams bringing in new players only have a couple months
