Anthony Nelson Going to the NFL

Jonrn said:
I love hesse and Nelson, but I don’t see any drop off between them and epenesa and gholston.

Phil Parker will find a replacement for hooker, he always does, I mean he found josh Jackson and hooker when no one else saw them coming.

The only truly irreplaceable early entry is hockenson.
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Dunno man, the same can be said for tight ends - we've never had a shortage of good tight ends for as long as I can remember.
 
Fryowa said:
Epenesa has a lot of improvement to make against the run. That's why he wasn't a full time DE this year.
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I’m pretty optimistic on the defense next year, but I do think the run stopping is a legitimate concern. That was the calling card for Hesse, Brinks, M Nelson, not to mention A Nelson was stout against the run. Golston and AJE are pass rushers, which is why the system worked so well this year. Only thing is it’s hard to pin your ears back and rush the passer on 3rd and short (see Wisconsin game this year) so if we don’t stop the run as well on early downs, there will be less opportunities for our pass rushers.

I’m hoping that improved play from the linebackers will help us fill some of the void of losing our run stoppers on the Dline.
 
Stanzi said:
Right? Has anyone checked to make sure they didn’t die in the bowl game? I’ve heard that they’d be stupid to play in the bowl game because it’s basically like a war zone level of danger. Hopefully they are smart and don’t play in the bowl game because if they do their NFL hopes are done.
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I'm really sorry about how butt hurt you both are, over Noah Fant's personal decisions. KF and the U of I should definitely amend the scholarship agreement to include the cessation of inalienable rights for all student athletes. Until such time as KF and the U of I are finished with them and their indentured servitude.
 
lightning1 said:
I'm really sorry about how butt hurt you both are, over Noah Fant's personal decisions. KF and the U of I should definitely amend the scholarship agreement to include the cessation of inalienable rights for all student athletes. Until such time as KF and the U of I are finished with them and their indentured servitude.
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Haha not butthurt at all. Just felt like mocking the dingleberries who claimed Fant was putting his career at risk by playing in the bowl game. It would appear you are the butthurt one based on your response.
 
Stanzi said:
Haha not butthurt at all. Just felt like mocking the dingleberries who claimed Fant was putting his career at risk by playing in the bowl game. It would appear you are the butthurt one based on your response.
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Every play of every game puts careers at risk. I can cite hundreds of examples. You're butt hurt because you're wrong.
 
Stanzi said:
Haha not butthurt at all. Just felt like mocking the dingleberries who claimed Fant was putting his career at risk by playing in the bowl game. It would appear you are the butthurt one based on your response.
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Your argument would be like saying “I was drunk driving last night but didn’t get caught, therefore drunk driving isn’t risky.”

Of course Fant and others who skipped the bowl game for injuries concerns likely wouldn’t have gotten hurt, however after weighing the pros vs the cons they decided it wasn’t worth it. It’s funny to listen to average Joe’s take on what Fant or others should do with a potential $10 million dollar guaranteed contract sitting in front of them.

Bottom line it was Fant’s decision, time to move on.
 
lightning1 said:
Every play of every game puts careers at risk. I can cite hundreds of examples. You're butt hurt because you're wrong.
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Well, it's an opinion, so it can't be wrong. Again, you're the one getting worked up about this, not me. Sure, every play potentially puts someone at risk of a career ending injury, but so does every time you drive a car, every time you climb a ladder, etc. The odds are though that you will be just fine doing any of those things.
 
NikeHawk21 said:
Your argument would be like saying “I was drunk driving last night but didn’t get caught, therefore drunk driving isn’t risky.”

Of course Fant and others who skipped the bowl game for injuries concerns likely wouldn’t have gotten hurt, however after weighing the pros vs the cons they decided it wasn’t worth it. It’s funny to listen to average Joe’s take on what Fant or others should do with a potential $10 million dollar guaranteed contract sitting in front of them.

Bottom line it was Fant’s decision, time to move on.
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That's a terrible analogy. If you had just said "driving" and you didn't get in an accident that would be a far more accurate analogy.
 
NikeHawk21 said:
I’m pretty optimistic on the defense next year, but I do think the run stopping is a legitimate concern. That was the calling card for Hesse, Brinks, M Nelson, not to mention A Nelson was stout against the run. Golston and AJE are pass rushers, which is why the system worked so well this year. Only thing is it’s hard to pin your ears back and rush the passer on 3rd and short (see Wisconsin game this year) so if we don’t stop the run as well on early downs, there will be less opportunities for our pass rushers.

I’m hoping that improved play from the linebackers will help us fill some of the void of losing our run stoppers on the Dline.
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What really sucks is that the LB spots are just as much of a word scramble as they were before this past season other than maybe Niemann. I think it was a huge mistake to let a year go by (purposely or not) where you made zero progress establishing a unit between those guys. I think a lot of the success B Niemann, Jewell, and Bower had was because they had played together for 3 years. It's either a coaching shortcoming to let it get to this point, or a recruiting fail that we don't have 3 clear cut starters by now.

Add that together with a somewhat iffy new D-line + losing Hooker + OJ being your most experienced secondary starter = bad juju.

Good thing it's Phil Parker trying to sort it out and not Brain.
 
Fryowa said:
What really sucks is that the LB spots are just as much of a word scramble as they were before this past season other than maybe Niemann. I think it was a huge mistake to let a year go by (purposely or not) where you made zero progress establishing a unit between those guys. I think a lot of the success B Niemann, Jewell, and Bower had was because they had played together for 3 years. It's either a coaching shortcoming to let it get to this point, or a recruiting fail that we don't have 3 clear cut starters by now.

Add that together with a somewhat iffy new D-line + losing Hooker + OJ being your most experienced secondary starter = bad juju.

Good thing it's Phil Parker trying to sort it out and not Brain.
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Didn't help that Niemann, Hockaday, and Jones all missed time with injuries or in Jones case, a bs targeting suspension. One thing promising to me is there's 5 guys there with real PT, being Jones, Welch, Wade, Niemann, and Colbert, along with 3 freshmen with early praise in Doyle, McDonald, and Benson. Add in Jacobs and Campbell and I think we're gonna be fine at LB.
 
Fryowa said:
What really sucks is that the LB spots are just as much of a word scramble as they were before this past season other than maybe Niemann. I think it was a huge mistake to let a year go by (purposely or not) where you made zero progress establishing a unit between those guys. I think a lot of the success B Niemann, Jewell, and Bower had was because they had played together for 3 years. It's either a coaching shortcoming to let it get to this point, or a recruiting fail that we don't have 3 clear cut starters by now.

Add that together with a somewhat iffy new D-line + losing Hooker + OJ being your most experienced secondary starter = bad juju.

Good thing it's Phil Parker trying to sort it out and not Brain.
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That I’ll have to disagree with. Injuries hurt the linebacking core’s stability but both Niemann and Colbert got tons of experience this year as underclassmen.

Also in the secondary Hankins has been starting games over the last two years as well so he isn’t lacking experience.
 
I keep hearing on here that they'd be stupid to stick around for another year if they're projected in the top 3 rounds, and that they all must be grading high enough to make it a no brain decision. But then I hear about all the other individuals entering early in addition to the seniors moving on, and I start to wonder that some of those early entrants are may be making a huge mistake and are not going to be selected as highly as they're being projected to. I simply hope each of our players, ending their college careers prematurely, look back years from now knowing they made the right decision and don't find themselves regretting the decision.
 
kicker22 said:
I keep hearing on here that they'd be stupid to stick around for another year if they're projected in the top 3 rounds, and that they all must be grading high enough to make it a no brain decision. But then I hear about all the other individuals entering early in addition to the seniors moving on, and I start to wonder that some of those early entrants are may be making a huge mistake and are not going to be selected as highly as they're being projected to. I simply hope each of our players, ending their college careers prematurely, look back years from now knowing they made the right decision and don't find themselves regretting the decision.
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For some it probably is a mistake. I think around 30 guys were early entrants to the draft last year and went undrafted.
 
kicker22 said:
I keep hearing on here that they'd be stupid to stick around for another year if they're projected in the top 3 rounds, and that they all must be grading high enough to make it a no brain decision. But then I hear about all the other individuals entering early in addition to the seniors moving on, and I start to wonder that some of those early entrants are may be making a huge mistake and are not going to be selected as highly as they're being projected to. I simply hope each of our players, ending their college careers prematurely, look back years from now knowing they made the right decision and don't find themselves regretting the decision.
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There are other reasons why a player might declare early. They don't like college. The only reason they enrolled is for this opportunity. They are not on schedule towards their degree and are not eligible to play their SR year (Fred Russell). These guys go to school with regular students. Regular students that get loans and manage to get their degrees. They all know they can come back and finish their degrees later or finish them on line, on schedule, while they chase their dreams. I'm not sure how or why their reasons got pigeon holed into either/or. Why is it a huge mistake to leave early? I don't understand this line of reasoning. Under some circumstances, I could see it being a mistake but those circumstances are unlikely.
 
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