I have no idea what your question means. Considering you think it's a hilarious slam to call someone asian like you did in the Jeremy Lin thread I am not surprised.
Andrew Luck or Robert Griffin III
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I have no idea what your question means. Considering you think it's a hilarious slam to call someone asian like you did in the Jeremy Lin thread I am not surprised.
I have never posted under any other name then if that's the question.
superfan12
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Man you are a cry baby. Good lord.
CRHawk2002
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I've just heard it said many times on espn and during games. Not saying he is more ready just that he is a better pocket passer. Luck likes to leave the pocket often as he likes roll out passes.
tm3308
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A triple facepalm wouldn't even begin to do justice to the amount of "fail" in this post. Griffin has personality, not an ego. He is quite possibly the most humble, well-spoken athlete (who also happens to be among the very best at what he does) I've ever seen. It's not tough to find athletes who maybe aren't all that great, and have them be humble. It's the guys like Griffin, who maintain the utmost humility despite people treating him like a rockstar, that are pretty rare.
Did you see the Gameday piece on him this fall, not long after Halloween? He walked all over campus with a hockey mask (Jason-style) all night so he WOULDN'T be recognized. He just wants to blend in when it comes to that sort of stuff. If he had an ego, he'd go around in a letter jacket pounding and puffing his chest all night.
Long story short: Griffin is much more like Nile Kinnick than he is Matt Leinart.
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trj
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This is the trap I fell for in Ryan Leaf you see the big arm, the mobility, the size and you become mesmerized by it......You take the safer pick, you take the better version of Matt Ryan and you build around it for the next decade.
BroderickHawk
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Ryan Leaf, much like Nuke LaLoosh, had a million dollar arm and a ten cent head.
This doesn't seem to be the case with Griffin.
This doesn't seem to be the case with Griffin.
cmhawks99
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I didn’t read this whole thread but the same things that I continually marvel at are present in here. He has a higher ceiling…?!?! Based on what, being fast and athletic….? He isn’t a no-brainer QB….I think he has a shot for sure, but there have been better, more polished, just as athletic QB’s fail before…..Really the same things we process to come up with our beliefs about our coaches and teams are the same that are prevalent in here…..
If Peyton Manning, Dan Marino, Joe Montana and Tom Brady were all coming out tomorrow with RG3 everyone & their dog would be saying RG3 has a better upside…?! And I say based on what…..and what proof is there that he is smarter than Mike Vick, who I personally love….he is at least accountable like most aren’t ….and clearly not a better athlete. Its highly debatable he throws a better ball for that matter. And with all Vicks tools, it isn’t his legs that win games, Peyton Manning and Tom Brady will always be better NFL QB’s than guys like RG3, until they prove otherwise.
And for that matter spread QB’s have a loooonnnngggg uphill battle in the NFL.
If Peyton Manning, Dan Marino, Joe Montana and Tom Brady were all coming out tomorrow with RG3 everyone & their dog would be saying RG3 has a better upside…?! And I say based on what…..and what proof is there that he is smarter than Mike Vick, who I personally love….he is at least accountable like most aren’t ….and clearly not a better athlete. Its highly debatable he throws a better ball for that matter. And with all Vicks tools, it isn’t his legs that win games, Peyton Manning and Tom Brady will always be better NFL QB’s than guys like RG3, until they prove otherwise.
And for that matter spread QB’s have a loooonnnngggg uphill battle in the NFL.
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luck is an obvious number 1. griffin has great potential but there is only 1 spot he has more upside in than luck and that is speed. arm strength = luck, footwork = luck (most shotgun qbs have bad footwork and have to learn this. cam newton had good footwork and rg3 has lazy feet), accurracy = luck (out of the gun you have more time and windows tend to be bigger when you have 4 wrs vs luck who many times had 1 or 2 wrs and 1 or 2 tes).
speed i will give you goes to griffin by far. in fact i wouldnt be surprised to see the fastest 40 be by rg3. he has true track speed something many fb players dont have because they carry about 15 to 20 lbs of wt more than they would have if they were just running track. rg3 is a world class 400 hurdler. arguably the most athletic running event in track. there has never been a qb with this type of speed. cam newton and tebow are more power than speed (not even close to him). vick in his prime wasnt as fast as this kid. in fact if it wasnt for the fact he would be focusing more on his throwing than running in prepping for the combine i would go as far as saying he may run a faster 40 than chris johnson did.
rg3 is solid but not the #1 pick when there is andrew luck.
speed i will give you goes to griffin by far. in fact i wouldnt be surprised to see the fastest 40 be by rg3. he has true track speed something many fb players dont have because they carry about 15 to 20 lbs of wt more than they would have if they were just running track. rg3 is a world class 400 hurdler. arguably the most athletic running event in track. there has never been a qb with this type of speed. cam newton and tebow are more power than speed (not even close to him). vick in his prime wasnt as fast as this kid. in fact if it wasnt for the fact he would be focusing more on his throwing than running in prepping for the combine i would go as far as saying he may run a faster 40 than chris johnson did.
rg3 is solid but not the #1 pick when there is andrew luck.
trj
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This is an age issue I am twice your age as you get older you become more conservative, you take less risk. I see a guy that has been groomed to be a NFL QB since he was 8 versus a converted track star.
RG3 is a good dude, a smart guy.....But I am not going to take a chance that I get Blaine Gabbert instead of Cam Newton. With spread QB(s) you just don't know. Luck is no guarantee, but he is pretty close.
tm3308
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There are precious few "no-brainer" QB's, and a good portion of those guys fail, too. Griffin has more upside because he has all, or nearly all, of the tools. And the ones he may not have (footwork, reading a defense) are the ones that can be taught. And he is precisely the kind of coach-able athlete that you want in that situation.
Proof that he's smarter than Vick? I can't give you IQ scores, but just compare the two when they talk (and FTR, we have to compare him to pre-dogfighting Vick). Vick was a dogfighter, and Griffin is going to law school. If that's not enough, then you're just arguing for arguing's sake.
Smith played in the NFC title game while Rodgers sat at home watching.
cmhawks99
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Really, really....this is what we are going to use...I suppose you realise Ted Bundy and Charles Mason both about a 160 IQ, right?!
tm3308
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1. Realize
2. You realize Vick has offered up a career's worth of poor decisions, both on and off the field, that demonstrate he's not too bright? His interviews (at least before the dogfighting) were often brutal to listen to.
If you prefer we don't compare Griffin to Vick, how about Vince Young? Or are we going to pretend that Young isn't dumber than a box of rocks, just because we don't have access to his IQ score?
