Andrew Fleming unofficial visit

Kennyfromminne said:
Im not so optimistic
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Me neither!!!

Hoping the point is mute by Fran turning things around. If Cookie leaves it could get ugly. I think there is more of a chance of Cook transfers to be closer to home than going pro because of aspects in his game that need improving. I don’t think he can live on the slam dunk in the NBA. In the NBA he is average at best at the forward position. He needs to develope a consistent outside shot. Once he does that then he will be ready for the big lights.

I hope he returns for his Junior season. He chances of playing in Europe are much higher than playing in the NBA at this point.
 
deanvogs said:
Locure isn't 5'10 . He is more Ulis size, 5'7 or 5'8 tops.
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His hair might make an accurate guess on that tough. I've seen a video of him being able to dunk so regardless of if he's under 5'10 or not the kid has quicks and hops. I love that he's gotten so many steals. He likes D and hustles. I think the only thing keeping him from being a 5 star recruit is about 5 inches of height.
 
Hawkfnntn said:
His hair might make an accurate guess on that tough. I've seen a video of him being able to dunk so regardless of if he's under 5'10 or not the kid has quicks and hops. I love that he's gotten so many steals. He likes D and hustles. I think the only thing keeping him from being a 5 star recruit is about 5 inches of height.
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He seems too athletic then for Fran to offer.
 
hawkeyebob62 said:
Yeah, the Lickliters totally agree...
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Big difference between the 2 is that Lick lost lots of players and struggled to even recruit full classes. The recruiting situation is much improved under Fran. The in season play has left a lot to be desired, but it's not like the cupboard is bare.
 
Adam said:
Big difference between the 2 is that Lick lost lots of players and struggled to even recruit full classes. The recruiting situation is much improved under Fran. The in season play has left a lot to be desired, but it's not like the cupboard is bare.
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If he continues on this path but lasts to the end of Patrick's career, the cupboard will be plenty Baer...er, bare.
 
Adam said:
Big difference between the 2 is that Lick lost lots of players and struggled to even recruit full classes. The recruiting situation is much improved under Fran. The in season play has left a lot to be desired, but it's not like the cupboard is bare.
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You mean like when Fran brought in 9 scholarship players in 2014 and 2015 combined and the only one that wasn't a miss was Moss and that could even be debated.
 
Hawk5656 said:
You mean like when Fran brought in 9 scholarship players in 2014 and 2015 combined and the only one that wasn't a miss was Moss and that could even be debated.
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Those were some shit classes no argument there. But the current trend is upward. Recent upticks in Iowa high school production of D1 prospects means Fran barley even needs to leave the state for a few more years to continue hauling in classes with top 100 kids. If he keeps the Iowa high school talent home then the cupboards won't be bare for 4 or 5 years. He won't last that long without at least 1 wildly successful season.
 
Hawk5656 said:
You mean like when Fran brought in 9 scholarship players in 2014 and 2015 combined and the only one that wasn't a miss was Moss and that could even be debated.
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Lick wasn't that bad of a recruiter considering his style of play and personality, he just couldn't keep anybody due to those same issues.
 
tksirius said:
Lick wasn't that bad of a recruiter considering his style of play and personality, he just couldn't keep anybody due to those same issues.
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I beg to differ. Lick recruited 1 4* (Top 100) recruit in 3 years. That was Gatens who as we all know was coming no matter who the coach was. Fran doubled that in year 3 with 2 players who were not sure gets for Iowa in Gessell and Woodbury. The thing is Fran has done a decent job at keeping the top Iowa kids home. If that trend continues we are looking at adding at least 4 more 4* Top 100 kids in the next 3 cycles. That is as close to high level recruiting as we have seen in quite some time.

Note: I'm not supporting the extension or lobbying for keeping Fran. Merely pointing out a major deliberating factor in the employment of a particular coach. This is a large highlightable area where Fran has just been better.
 
Adam said:
I beg to differ. Lick recruited 1 4* (Top 100) recruit in 3 years. That was Gatens who as we all know was coming no matter who the coach was. Fran doubled that in year 3 with 2 players who were not sure gets for Iowa in Gessell and Woodbury. The thing is Fran has done a decent job at keeping the top Iowa kids home. If that trend continues we are looking at adding at least 4 more 4* Top 100 kids in the next 3 cycles. That is as close to high level recruiting as we have seen in quite some time.

Note: I'm not supporting the extension or lobbying for keeping Fran. Merely pointing out a major deliberating factor in the employment of a particular coach. This is a large highlightable area where Fran has just been better.
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I wasn't saying Lick was a good recruiter, I was saying he wasn't that bad considering how bad of a coach he was and his style of play. I was surprised by who actually decided to play for him.
 
tksirius said:
I wasn't saying Lick was a good recruiter, I was saying he wasn't that bad considering how bad of a coach he was and his style of play. I was surprised by who actually decided to play for him.
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Lol I get cha. You are giving him kudos points for actually being able to recruit a single sole with that horrendous personality and terrible game play. Fair enough.
 
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