hawkeyebob62
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Freeh Report folks did not interview Spanier, Curley, Schulz, McQueary or Paterno. Thorough, indeed.
Akeel Lynch in Iowa City?
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Freeh Report folks did not interview Spanier, Curley, Schulz, McQueary or Paterno. Thorough, indeed.
DexterMorgan
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Come again?
deanvogs
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And you think that the NCAA would get to interview those guys? They aren't talking to anyone but their attorneys.
If the NCAA did this investigation, they wouldn't have had anywhere near the access that Penn St. gave Freeh, and it wouldn't have been nearly as well done. Please explain to me, how the NCAA could have done a better investigatory job than the former directory of the FBI who served in that role from 1993-2001? Who not only is exponentially more qualified, but was actually hired by the university itself to get to the bottom of what happened, had access to email, and records that the NCAA never would have.....
blkngldFRO
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It was interesting to see this thread slowly change to a different topic, but any other news on Lynch?
This x2 please!
DexterMorgan
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According to everything I'm reading.
He was not in Iowa city and will not visit Iowa City again before making a decision. However, he currently is considering a transfer to Iowa.
The inside source inside my head still tells me he ends up a hawk.
SpiderRico
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The NCAA doesn't have subpoena power either, so if they did their own investigation, they wouldn't have been interviewing those people either. And really, once you have the smoking gun emails and notes, there's nothing those guys could say anyway.
storminspank
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Lynch was taking summer classes at PSU, so he'd have to finish those first (if he hasn't already)
DexterMorgan
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I really don't buy that Lynch is looking at Redd's decision to make his.
Is it even a given that he'd get significant carries in Redd's absence? Even if Redd stays he's most likely gone after this year.
blkngldFRO
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Any running back has to know if they come to Iowa right now they are going to have the chance to start or get significant carries. If that is what a young man wants then he has it at Iowa with the chance for bowl games and championship's.
DFaceHawkeye
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I don't buy this either. I think he's just trying to make his best overall decision. If his decision was purely based on playing time. The Iowa coaches would just have to show him their history with backs and let him know that there would be ample opportunity.
hawkeyebob62
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Is this the same FBI director involved in Waco? Just checking...
My point is, if the NCAA is not going to do investigations, what IS their purpose? And it took, as someone else pointed out, three YEARS to complete USC investigation?
And since PSU paid for it, I suspect ONE motive would be back-up justification for any/all firings/terminations.
DexterMorgan
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If you guys would like to discuss the NCAA sanctions here's a great place to do it.
http://www.hawkeyenation.com/forum/...ll/47673-did-ncaa-overstep-its-authority.html
http://www.hawkeyenation.com/forum/...ll/47673-did-ncaa-overstep-its-authority.html
hawkeyebob62
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<<The NCAA doesn't have subpoena power either>>
And Freeh and Co. did? You'd think they would have used it to get someone like, oh, Joe Paterno on the carpet...
<<there's nothing those guys could say anyway>>
Yeah, you wouldn't want someone to be able to defend oneself...
hawkeyebob62
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My point really is NOT the punishment for PSU, although I think it's harsh. My point is that USC is already "pre-anticipating" an "adademic casualty" to justify going after Silas Redd.
That is so wrong...on so many levels...
BigD
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Re: Lynch
Lynch looks tough and just what we need to get a lynch mob together and lynch up that damn AIRBHG!!!!!!!! He and Garmon would make a nice combo. Speaking of Lynch and not AIRBHG.
Lynch looks tough and just what we need to get a lynch mob together and lynch up that damn AIRBHG!!!!!!!! He and Garmon would make a nice combo. Speaking of Lynch and not AIRBHG.
donho24
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With full acknowledgement that this thread has gone completely off track, I'd like to comment on this sentence.
In the interest of disclosure, when Mr. Freeh was the Director of the FBI, I had occasion to meet him twice during the 1995-1996 time frame while I was still on active duty in the Marines. If only there were more people with Mr. Freeh's competence, expertise and integrity willing to lend their talents to our nation's service...
A modicum of research will reveal to those able to muster the effort, that "Waco" was just one of many "situations" Mr. Freeh inherited and had to deal with during his tenure as the Director of the FBI.
If the fact that a former Assistant United States Attorney from the Southern District of New York, who was later appointed under Article III (of the United States Constitution) to the Federal Bench as a District Court Judge by a Republican president, and then, later asked to give up that life time appointment to become the Director of the FBI by a Democratic president does not clue a person in to the fact that these exceptional circumstances only arise around individuals whose competence and integrity is such that they can sail through political appointment process from either party, then no explanation from me can help.
If one disagrees with Mr. Freeh's work product, please attack it on the merits. Attempting to besmirch the reputation of an individual of this caliber, based on his public service during the decades of the 80's and 90's is just plain whacko (pun intended).
And now, back to your regularly scheduled programming.
DodgerHawki
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It was more thorough than a regular NCAA investigation..
due to the manpower devoted to it and the access granted by PSU to Freeh's investigators. Spanier, Curley, Schultz, Paterno and McQueary were not interviewed because they all either were under criminal investigation themselves (Spanier, Curley, Schulz) or possibly needed as witnesses in those criminal trials (Paterno and McQueary). Freeh did not have subpoena power, only the state of Pennsylvania or the federal government can do that. It would be foolish for Spanier, Curley or Schulz's attorneys to allow their clients to give testimony to Freeh and his investigators.
Where it was more thorough was in the auditing/access to the volume of old emails and the number of university employees they could interview. An NCAA interview of this size would have taken far longer and resulted in much less information being gathered.
The Freeh Report has its flaws, mainly in that you don't have input from the 5 people you mentioned. My guess is that once even more information comes out in the criminal trials, it isn't going to make PSU look better, it will likely make them look worse. Especially if Schulz or Curley agrees to testify against the others in order for a reduced sentence.
due to the manpower devoted to it and the access granted by PSU to Freeh's investigators. Spanier, Curley, Schultz, Paterno and McQueary were not interviewed because they all either were under criminal investigation themselves (Spanier, Curley, Schulz) or possibly needed as witnesses in those criminal trials (Paterno and McQueary). Freeh did not have subpoena power, only the state of Pennsylvania or the federal government can do that. It would be foolish for Spanier, Curley or Schulz's attorneys to allow their clients to give testimony to Freeh and his investigators.
Where it was more thorough was in the auditing/access to the volume of old emails and the number of university employees they could interview. An NCAA interview of this size would have taken far longer and resulted in much less information being gathered.
The Freeh Report has its flaws, mainly in that you don't have input from the 5 people you mentioned. My guess is that once even more information comes out in the criminal trials, it isn't going to make PSU look better, it will likely make them look worse. Especially if Schulz or Curley agrees to testify against the others in order for a reduced sentence.
