ESPN then has it all wrong as they are the ones calling him the 15th best freshmen in the country and list him as the 3rd best freshmen in the BT, but i guess you know more than they do. maybe you should apply for the job as talent evaluator for ESPN. or better yet start your own talent evaluation agency and sell your services to the NBA
Aaron White will be a solid NBA player
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Are you trying to start a string of crazy arguments?
He is gaining great experience this year practicing against Sullinger. When Sullinger declares for the draft the player will take his place. I am sure since he is a McDonalds AA he has talent and being on campus for a year getting stronger, learning from a great coaching staff, and being pushed in practice by a player who is 10 times better than any player on Iowa's roster will allow him to be in a very good spot next year assuming his mentality is right.
Do you not understand this?
He is practice player this year due to DEPTH at OSU! Aaron White would be a red shirt at OSU due to the talent and depth they have.
I am sure the ESPN list is based on true Freshmen who are playing and producing. It is great that White is producing as it's better than not producing obviously.
I think the counter argument is that if you gave an NBA scout a list of true freshmen at the college level that they think are NBA players White might not be as high on the list. Obviously you have some good freshmen who just don't get PT on the elite teams in the country. The best freshmen play right away even at elite programs but you have a lot of very good freshmen on elite programs who just don't get PT because you have a sophomore or junior who is just more mature and better at this moment ahead of them.
BasketballMan
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ICHAWK. Do YOU not understand that a freshman actually playing in games against BIG talent for significant minutes just might be a bit more productive for the kid rather than playing practice minutes and riding the pine his first year or so? Last time I checked, simulating a game under practice conditions is not quite the same as the real deal give the pressure, game speed, etc, etc. Not trying to start any sort of string of arguments. Simply making a few factual points. If you dont agree? Terrific. Sure I "get" the concept of practicing against a top notch player and what that can do for a kid. But don't attempt to tell me that's better conditions over actually playing real minutes in a real game. Ain't buying that my friend. Again. We are both ******** at each other over something that only time is gonna tell. Neither you nor me knows what's in the future for White or any other freshmen.
Oh I agree playing beats practicing and I think it's probably hard to argue that. But if you are going to sit the bench and only get to practice you might as well do it at an elite program rather than Iowa where you just are not going to practice against as talented players. Hence Gabe is hurt this year by not playing in real games.
Like many have said you can be a really good college player and not make the NBA as there is always one and done freshmen who can take your spot in the NBA draft. I don't know why there have been so many posts about Iowa players making the NBA.
Wow, just wow. You make an idiotic post saying that freshman who go to elite programs are stunting their own growth by not coming to Iowa and follow up with this? Hilarious.
Only a fool would believe Aaron White is the 15th best freshman in the country. Since you actually believe it I guess we know where you stand.
BasketballMan
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Tkinner. I think it's time for your nap. Time to go back into your cage. Goodnight.
I just checked NBA draft express.
They have Aaron White ranked as the 57th best freshmen in college basketball based on NBA draft potential.
We will see how he progress's up the NBA draft express board as plays out his years at Iowa.
These are more experts than you or I Herby.
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Thanks for the info ICHAWK.
Not to be rude but wow this is stupid. So your argument is that hes only good because he hustles and gets good numbers. Talent doesn't mean anything if you don't play well. And he is actually putting up numbers that are impressive in any conference. Who cares about talent if it doesn't get used?
His point that went over your head is that on great teams the majority of freshman don't get any playing time because of the players in front of them on the team. Ohio State has 4 stud freshman recruits including 2 McDonalds All Americans who sit the bench and barely play at all. The same can be said about virtually every good program in the country (Kentucky, UNC, Duke, Arizona, etc, etc). You can't just say Aaron White is better than all of them because he gets to play and they don't.
May, Gatens, and Basabe were All Big Ten Freshman Team selections as well. Do you really think any of them were among the 5 best Big Ten players in their class?
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BasketballMan
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Tskinner. Give it up buddy and go back to sleep. We'll talk in a year or two.
Says the guy who is arguing Basabe must be one of the best sophomores in the country because his Freshman numbers were good. It's hilarious someone who clearly knows so little about college basketball calls himself basketball man. Sorry you embarrassed yourself in this thread.
BasketballMan
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Tskinner. Here's the deal. Please do this for me. Point to the line within this thread where I say "Basabe must be one of the best sophmores in the country because his Freshman numbers were good" and I'll be more than happy to somehow mail to you a crisp $100 bill. I'll also apologize for my ignorance. Last time I checked most of the conversation within this thread was around White, as the OP started out with such.
You are arguing the exact same thing with White, that since his numbers are top 15 compared to other Freshman he is an elite player. Sorry bringing up an example from last year of your argument makes you look really stupid.
jacknicholson
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It is possible because of his basketball intelligence and aggressive attitude. Probably too early to say, but he has three more years to polish his game. He does remind me of Larry Bird, poor man's version at this stage, because of his game smarts. Aaron is very creative on the floor. Still smile at the move he made in the Wisconsin game. He drove into the middle, was covered with no possibility of an outlet pass, threw the ball off the backboard, caught it and then made the basket. You can't teach that natural instinct.....
If Aaron becomes proficient with the three, he could play in the pros, especially if he continues to improve. Of course, I said that Jeff Hornacek will never play in the pros because he was too slow.....
Nobody Knows the answer, it is idle conjecture at this point, food for thought that is.....
If Aaron becomes proficient with the three, he could play in the pros, especially if he continues to improve. Of course, I said that Jeff Hornacek will never play in the pros because he was too slow.....
Nobody Knows the answer, it is idle conjecture at this point, food for thought that is.....
BasketballMan
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Thanks for clarifying Tskinner. Time for your second nap today. Goodnight.
i have one thing to say, it is is ESPN who states he is the 15th best freshman and 3rd best in the BT and it has nothing to do with his stats as to where stands,
for example to make sure you get the point,
they are not saying he is scoring 12 pts a game to put him between the 14th place scorer at 13 pts per game and 16 at 11 ppg, stats have nothing to do with their rankings.
they feel he IS the 15th best freshman in the country, why do you hate on the kid to keep ragging on him
for example to make sure you get the point,
they are not saying he is scoring 12 pts a game to put him between the 14th place scorer at 13 pts per game and 16 at 11 ppg, stats have nothing to do with their rankings.
they feel he IS the 15th best freshman in the country, why do you hate on the kid to keep ragging on him
BasketballMan
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Intelligent post Mr Nicholson. how's them lakers doing?
