$5 mil a year to bonehead go for 2 early in the game!!!

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phdsvp said:
Is KF even in the top HALF of B1G coaches? He's obviously worse than Meyer, Harbaugh, Brohm, and Fitz. A lot of people would put him below James Franklin. I may not like Michigan State very much, but scoreboard doesn't lie. So we might be down to KF being better than Scott Frost to even stay in the top half.
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Winning formula for being all time wins leader in Iowa football; schedule shit non-conference teams and win half of your conference games. Also have an AD that let’s this go on for twenty years.
 
BigD said:
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Winning formula for being all time wins leader in Iowa football; schedule shit non-conference teams and win half of your conference games. Also have an AD that let’s this go on for twenty years.
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LMAO because Fran caught on to this Barta winning formula!!!!!!!!!!!! :rolleyes:
 
hawkdrummer1 said:
I wouldn't be so quick with those blanket generalizations. I'm an "old fart" and most of my college buddies who are hard core Hawk fans don't think that way.

And incase some still haven't figured it out...the decision to go for 2 was NOT WHY WE LOST. Purdue would have just punched it into the endzone on the last drive if they needed more than the FG. They were 1st and goal...we weren't stopping them.
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That wasnt a blanket generalization. It would be if I said only old guys think that way. :)
 
I may be a bit ovrerserverd and am trying really hard to LEARN THE GAME, but aren't you chasing points every time you have the ball?
 
pekurhawk said:
I may be a bit ovrerserverd and am trying really hard to LEARN THE GAME, but aren't you chasing points every time you have the ball?
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Nope. Only when you stop using the unconventional methods apparently. Trying to score a touchdown on 3rd down is just playing the game. Trying to score a touchdown on 4th down is chasing points.
 
PCHawk said:
I think a lot of people (especially the older generation) want to avoid something bad happening for as long as possible, even at the detriment of giving yourself a better chance to win. Missing a 2 pt conversion is bad, but the benefits of making it far outweighs the downside of missing it, yet people dont care. They want to avoid bad things at all costs.
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Do you own insurance, sure you do because of all the statistical data that says certain things are going to happen.

I am going by the logic of 99% of making one point is better than 15% of making two points.

Especially when missing the two point conversion puts you behind the 8 ball by then potentially being 12 points behind if and WHEN Purdue scored their next td
 
uihawk82 said:
Do you own insurance, sure you do because of all the statistical data that says certain things are going to happen.

I am going by the logic of 99% of making one point is better than 15% of making two points.

Especially when missing the two point conversion puts you behind the 8 ball by then potentially being 12 points behind if and WHEN Purdue scored their next td
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Being 12 points behind "if" they score another td int much worse than 11. Either way you are in huge trouble.
 
pythagoras said:
Well you keep spouting BS. Just go away. We get it you hate Iowa already
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Please tell us again how you're smarter than all of us.

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Going for 2 early in the game is dangerous because if you don't get it (like what happened here) your pretty much committing yourself to going for it again only out of desperation then. Pretty much just like it went down. There was so so much time left when we first did that I'm surprised KF got caught up in the shoot out mentality. He of all coaches I would have thought would have had some faith in the D of getting a stop or 2. (which they did get 2 TOs) Which would allow us to stay in the game. This turned out to bite him hard..
 
NoBeer said:
If you’re not pissed you’re already not a fan. I can do stupid hot takes too
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This says it all. Hey we on this board are big fans and want the team to succeed for the players and for us. I call out some things like coaching decisions or a few player decisions when I see them, or bad officiating, etc. If you are not upset by the combinations of things in the 3 losses this year, mistakes and decisions, and perhaps officiating (like no review on the maybe AJ forced Hornibrook fumble) then you are not a Fan which mean Fanatic.

I dont call players terrible or bad, earlier this season I said our cornerback play looked problematic and it is but at the same time there wasnt extreme pressure on the QB today, there was some pressure hurries and a sack or two but it is not all on the Corners. It can be scheme. That is what we discuss.

Other posters on HN who dont like us can block us.
 
SidFarkas said:
15th to 20th largest budget
Third highest salary in the B1G
$90m stadium addition
One of, if not the top football facilities in B1G

Only thing missing is the Championships
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Lovie makes more than Ferentz and so does Frosty. Maybe you thought he was still with the Bears.
 
I just read 2 articles bitching about the 2 point conversions too. I cant believe how many people have a problem trying to score from the 2 yard line in one play but dont care about trying to score from the 4 yard line in one play the play before. If your stance is it was too early to chase points, it means you dont agree with the 4th down call either. Chasing points gained us 3 points on that drive.
 
If we kick a PAT there and are still down 4 points late in the game, we are in big trouble if we have a 4th down in field goal range. That scenario is way more to happen than the one that did. By the way, did anyone see how wide open the Purdue wr was on that quick slant td? That's the play they would have burned us on if they were down 3 with 1st and goal. Once the pass interference was called, we had no chance of winning, regardless of whether Kirk went for 1 or 2.
 
Bigtenchamp said:
I've honesty never seen anyone say going for it on 4th down is the same thing as going for 2.

Never.
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(Sigh)

If KF had opted for the FG...and SUCCCESSFULLY THE OTHER PATS (or not)....we have 3 LESS points (because we kicked a FG instead of getting a TD)...thus, we NEVER have the lead
 
uihawk82 said:
I am with you man and I dont think these other posters feel the difference between scrimmage plays and the percentages of conversion plays. It is just a totally different thing.

Thanks for jumping in here BigtenChamp
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Great. TWO morons in the same thread.

What do you NOT get? "Chasing points" was done on the 2-point attempts AND on the the 4th-down play. To say they are "different" or "not the same" is idiotic. IF we "take" the FG instead of the TD, we are DOWN 35-33, andPurdue doesn't even need the winning drive. Because...if we take that FG instead of the TD...THERE IS NO 2-POINT ATTEMPT. DUH!

Jesus, the MORON Quotient around here is amazing.
 
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