4 years, 36 wins is that good?

mopkins said:
9 wins a season would be terrible at Alabama or Ohio state, but really good at Minnesota or Iowa State. it's all relative.

I'd be curious to know how many power 5 teams have averaged 9+ wins a season over the past 4 years. I'm guessing it's around 20-25 teams.
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Would it shock you that Iowa is tied for 11th most wins over the last 4 years of all P5 teams? Tied with Oklahoma St. and ND right now for 11th, only behind Bama, Clemson, OSU, OU, Wisconsin, Georgia, Stanford, Washington, Penn St., and Michigan. Now this doesn't count this years bowl games, and it does involve me doing some math so a couple of these might be off.
 
deanvogs said:
Would it shock you that Iowa is tied for 11th most wins over the last 4 years of all P5 teams? Tied with Oklahoma St. and ND right now for 11th, only behind Bama, Clemson, OSU, OU, Wisconsin, Georgia, Stanford, Washington, Penn St., and Michigan. Now this doesn't count this years bowl games, and it does involve me doing some math so a couple of these might be off.
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Iowa has a Pinstripe win...that separates them from a lot of these teams.
 
HuckFinn said:
Is there an echo in here? Rev,tk, lightning...same old same old. Please go follow Ohio st, or Alabama. Good grief. You guys are getting more repetitive, read boring, as time goes by. You hate our U. President, past U. Presidents, our AD, Our head football coach (and his staff), our head bb coach and his staff, so why do you even hang out here? More recently, even our kids have been targeted by name, which has been out of bounds here until recently. The only real company you seem to have on this site is a clearly identifiable small group who continually bash everything iowa sports.

At Illinois, at Indiana, at Purdue I was sold a ticket that seated me next to the parents of Espy, Nate, Nelson, our punter, our field goal kicker, a couple of our running backs, and many others. I really enjoyed interacting with these folks. They really understand the game!
wish you could have been there. At the same time, I wonder if you would be willing to look these folks in the eye and make some of the comments you have anonymously posted here.

I may very well be looking through rose colored glasses at Iowa sports, of being too willing to have lower expectations, and to be more willing to trust the wisdom of our coaches and the administration than I should. But, I am also willing to admit that as a fan of football and basketball, I am way, way out of my league as a critic of successful Division 1 coaches.
And, so are you. Not knowing what you don’t know is a deep hole.

End rant.
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Every college fan base is basically the same.
If we're honest we'll all admit that we are all annoyingly optimistic and excited each pre-season, annoyingly pessimistic when we get our hearts ripped out after a bad loss (or during a 3-game streak of bad losses) and then during late summer, once again optimistic for a special FB season to remember!
College fans are literally like the four seasons, just rinse and repeat, year after year after year. Then we die.
So what?
Honestly there are far worse things we could do than spend some time on these forums...but it's our choice to do so.
I gave up being on here for quite a while, then I was drawn back into it. It's great to hang out with Hawkeye fans after all!
What it comes down to is regardless of whether we love KF or want him to retire - WE ALL LOVE THE IOWA HAWKEYES! And we want more than anything else for them to just win...that's all.
Yes, these forums allow many of us to vent like crazy, some of us might take it a little too far, but you're exactly right that if we were ever face to face with some coach from the program or sitting with the parent of a player at a game we'd definitely dial it back a bit. That's just human nature.
But in the end, ranting and cussing and getting things off our chest online doesn't hurt anyone. What each of us chooses to type in here is nothing more than thinking out loud via the internet (sometimes with not much thinking involved) and is truly meaningless compared to things that really matter in life.
 
deanvogs said:
Just wondering
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9 wins a year seems above avg, but I would call this 4 year record just Good, C+ or a good good. Why, losing too many games they should have won because you can distinctly see the team and or coaches boot them away.

2016 - NDSU, hawks were in control then went conservative and flat, jNW we barely lost after having only 10 players on the field and gave up a big punt return along with some other breakdowns against a less than avg team

2017 - only scoring 10 at MSU and jNW and only 15 on senior day, wow

An above avg grade would be 40 wins and of course I am not always expecting 11 or 12 wins a year which is excellent.

I am saying the hawks should be getting 10 wins a year more than not
 
mopkins said:
9 wins a season would be terrible at Alabama or Ohio state, but really good at Minnesota or Iowa State. it's all relative.

I'd be curious to know how many power 5 teams have averaged 9+ wins a season over the past 4 years. I'm guessing it's around 20-25 teams.
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21... Link below.. 19 if you exclude App State and Toledo



Great site can breakdown conference, non conference etc..
https://www.teamrankings.com/ncf/trends/win_trends/?range=yearly_since_2015&sc=all_games
 
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uihawk82 said:
9 wins a year seems above avg, but I would call this 4 year record just Good, C+ or a good good. Why, losing too many games they should have won because you can distinctly see the team and or coaches boot them away.

2016 - NDSU, hawks were in control then went conservative and flat, jNW we barely lost after having only 10 players on the field and gave up a big punt return along with some other breakdowns against a less than avg team

2017 - only scoring 10 at MSU and jNW and only 15 on senior day, wow

An above avg grade would be 40 wins and of course I am not always expecting 11 or 12 wins a year which is excellent.

I am saying the hawks should be getting 10 wins a year more than not
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You do realize only 6 P5 teams have won 40+ games over the last 4 years?

Some on here have ZERO perspective on where Iowa is at as a program compared to other programs around the country. This is close to Kirk's best run of '01-'04 (or '02-'05) where he won 38 games in 4 years. If he wins the bowl game, that is 1 win less over 4 years than those good runs.

It is like I am the only guy on here who can see objectively. For instance when Iowa's four year run looked like this: 26-25 with the 43rd most P5 wins over that time period (2011-2014) I was calling for Kirk Ferentz head. Yet when he has won 36 game over a 4 year span, it is dumb to be rattling your saber.
 
deanvogs said:
You do realize only 6 P5 teams have won 40+ games over the last 4 years?

Some on here have ZERO perspective on where Iowa is at as a program compared to other programs around the country. This is close to Kirk's best run of '01-'04 (or '02-'05) where he won 38 games in 4 years. If he wins the bowl game, that is 1 win less over 4 years than those good runs.

It is like I am the only guy on here who can see objectively. For instance when Iowa's four year run looked like this: 26-25 with the 43rd most P5 wins over that time period (2011-2014) I was calling for Kirk Ferentz head. Yet when he has won 36 game over a 4 year span, it is dumb to be rattling your saber.
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Just out of curiosity, what does it tell you that we have 36 wins over the past 4 years, no wins vs Wisconsin or PSU, the 2 toughest teams on our schedule every year and 1 Pinstripe Bowl win. What does that tell you about those 36 wins? I'm genuinely curious to know what your thoughts are on this. What does 36 wins + 1 Pinstripe Bowl victory do for your perspective? Especially when you consider the blow out losses in the other 3 Bowl games.
You're the new decider of Iowa fan perspective. Enlighten us all. Pretty please.
 
The Big LeHAWKski said:
Every college fan base is basically the same.
If we're honest we'll all admit that we are all annoyingly optimistic and excited each pre-season, annoyingly pessimistic when we get our hearts ripped out after a bad loss (or during a 3-game streak of bad losses) and then during late summer, once again optimistic for a special FB season to remember!
College fans are literally like the four seasons, just rinse and repeat, year after year after year. Then we die.
So what?
Honestly there are far worse things we could do than spend some time on these forums...but it's our choice to do so.
I gave up being on here for quite a while, then I was drawn back into it. It's great to hang out with Hawkeye fans after all!
What it comes down to is regardless of whether we love KF or want him to retire - WE ALL LOVE THE IOWA HAWKEYES! And we want more than anything else for them to just win...that's all.
Yes, these forums allow many of us to vent like crazy, some of us might take it a little too far, but you're exactly right that if we were ever face to face with some coach from the program or sitting with the parent of a player at a game we'd definitely dial it back a bit. That's just human nature.
But in the end, ranting and cussing and getting things off our chest online doesn't hurt anyone. What each of us chooses to type in here is nothing more than thinking out loud via the internet (sometimes with not much thinking involved) and is truly meaningless compared to things that really matter in life.
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Cogent, well thought out posts filled with common sense have no place on this board.... :cool:
 
Wisconsin and PSU have been better. You act like WI and PSU didn't face similar opponents to accomplish their records. It was just Iowa who was playing IL, MN I guess. I don't lose a lot of sleep over that. Neither of those teams are looking to fire their coaches, why would Iowa who has been nipping at their heals the last 4 years? It's ridiculous to fire a coach that is a proven winner. It just doesn't happen, and when it does, I'd like to see where it's been a success? Iowa hasn't been good enough, but in the big picture, it's one of the best college football programs in the country. You can't really argue that because when compared to their peers, they are high on the totem pole.
 
deanvogs said:
You do realize only 6 P5 teams have won 40+ games over the last 4 years?

Some on here have ZERO perspective on where Iowa is at as a program compared to other programs around the country. This is close to Kirk's best run of '01-'04 (or '02-'05) where he won 38 games in 4 years. If he wins the bowl game, that is 1 win less over 4 years than those good runs.

It is like I am the only guy on here who can see objectively. For instance when Iowa's four year run looked like this: 26-25 with the 43rd most P5 wins over that time period (2011-2014) I was calling for Kirk Ferentz head. Yet when he has won 36 game over a 4 year span, it is dumb to be rattling your saber.
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I said in another thread that 60 other teams would luv to be where Iowa is on a yearly basis. Nothing wrong with wanting to move the bar up a little, but people need to keep it real.
 
lightning1 said:
Just out of curiosity, what does it tell you that we have 36 wins over the past 4 years, no wins vs Wisconsin or PSU, the 2 toughest teams on our schedule every year and 1 Pinstripe Bowl win. What does that tell you about those 36 wins? I'm genuinely curious to know what your thoughts are on this. What does 36 wins + 1 Pinstripe Bowl victory do for your perspective? Especially when you consider the blow out losses in the other 3 Bowl games.
You're the new decider of Iowa fan perspective. Enlighten us all. Pretty please.
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Valid point. Also, 10-12 of those wins should come against lesser non-conference directional schools.
 
deanvogs said:
Would it shock you that Iowa is tied for 11th most wins over the last 4 years of all P5 teams? Tied with Oklahoma St. and ND right now for 11th, only behind Bama, Clemson, OSU, OU, Wisconsin, Georgia, Stanford, Washington, Penn St., and Michigan. Now this doesn't count this years bowl games, and it does involve me doing some math so a couple of these might be off.
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Well, to put that in perspective, there are 65 P5 teams total, counting Notre Dame.

11th place puts Iowa in the top 17%, which is good.

Now if you counted the number of weeks Iowa was ranked in the top 25, I am guessing that was not as good.
 
mrolympia said:
do they still make the chevy ss? If not, just LS swap a malibu
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They stopped making the SS and Chevy switched to the Camaro for NASCAR with disastrous results due to the new aero rules that prohibit mid season body changes. The SS was a great sedan that was as nice or nicer than its Euro or Japanese counterparts, but proles are morons who preferred to buy (or more accurately, lease) "luxury" nameplates.
 
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