Barta should have documented as her direct supervisor and he should have provided documentation to HR. Should have included hard copy of what he was receiving from other coaches, etc. You cannot operate on verbals on these things.
1.4 million to Jane (I assume Tracey will now get a check instead of a trial)
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Barta should have documented as her direct supervisor and he should have provided documentation to HR. Should have included hard copy of what he was receiving from other coaches, etc. You cannot operate on verbals on these things.
lightning1
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No. That's not how it works. The HR department only gets involved when an official complaint is filed or a competent administrator wants to address a poor performance or poor behavioral matter. HR is not lurking like a hall monitor, waiting to pounce on what they see.
lightning1
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I'd bet you're right. He absolutely should be fired for incompetence at his job. Not for the discrimination. But he won't be. KF likes his donkey too much.
This is not just revenge against Barta. She is doing extensive damage to the University. She claims to "love Iowa," but she is choosing to pursue this in a manner that is very damaging to the university, even though she may honestly believe it will have long-term benefit.
So far, it seems mostly to have to reinforced the prejudices of people I know, regardless of which side of the case they agree with.
So, how does the lack of evidence in his defense become the presence of evidence for all five counts against him?
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DDThompson
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Post 2-3 up from yours answers a lot of questions but paragraphs would be nice.
Fryowa
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Whoops. Didn't see that one. My bad for the extraneous posting.
HawkeyeGunner
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How much of this decision is based on everyone's need to apologize for the way certain types of people where treated in the past and the jurors where hypersensitive because they didn't want to be seen as bigots and haters? She had several times where she was disrespectful and where she didn't know what she needed to know for her job. She also was giving information to her significant other about the investigation and sticking her nose in it. If I pulled that kind of crap I would be thrown out the door, forget about even being asked to leave.
Fryowa
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Never let 12 people you don't know decide what happens to you.
Joshbrown
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I'll take the bet.
http://www.hawkcentral.com/story/sp...-jane-meyer-ruling-university-iowa/311222001/
From Hawkcentral:
Iowa athletics director Gary Barta — Meyer’s former boss and the primary target of hours upon hours of testimony — couldn’t have seen this coming, either.
But it came.
And now he’s in big, big trouble.
While the case was officially Meyer vs. the UI, it was really always about Meyer vs. Barta.
The university’s top-ranking athletics official losing a case about civil rights isn’t something that should be casually brushed aside.
“A jury of Iowans said he violated Iowa law,” Thomas Newkirk, one of Meyer’s attorneys, said Thursday, a little more than an hour after the verdict broke. “He fired women for potentially having conflicts of interest. … And he testified in his deposition that if he violated the law, then he possibly should be disciplined or removed from his position.
“So will they actually follow through on Mr. Barta’s own admissions? I guess we’ll soon find out.”
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He won't be fired right away. It'll be amicable and professional and everyone will smile and wish each other well. He might even leave for another job or do the Tom Davis thing and "retire". But sometime in the next 18 months he will be gone.
He won't be fired right away. It'll be amicable and professional and everyone will smile and wish each other well. He might even leave for another job or do the Tom Davis thing and "retire". But sometime in the next 18 months he will be gone.
Joshbrown
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There's also a very big elephant in the room right now. Jane's lawyers want the U of IA to run the athletic dept. differently.
Ferentz (and others) are going to be dragged into this as the lawyers argue that internal University policies regarding hiring; firing; discipline; promotions and salaries were routinely ignored in a way that shows unequal treatment.
That phrase will be repeated often over the next 18 months and it will be at the heart of the actions by Jane/Tracey's lawyers.
Ferentz (and others) are going to be dragged into this as the lawyers argue that internal University policies regarding hiring; firing; discipline; promotions and salaries were routinely ignored in a way that shows unequal treatment.
That phrase will be repeated often over the next 18 months and it will be at the heart of the actions by Jane/Tracey's lawyers.
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DDThompson
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Hey, I do that too. Everybody does. Tough to stay current with posts at times. I thought it was helpful post.
homes
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He's too much of a politician. He should have canned her right out of the blocks, with the first signs of insubordination. Appeasement never works. Never. The longer he kept her on, the harder it was to fire her for past issues. He may be good at raising money (although with the Big Ten Network money, it doesn't take a lot of skill), but he seems to be weak at HR issues. You need a hammer, not a kid glove in those situations.
EstronHawkKing
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That's because she is a vile, nasty woman with a huge chip on her shoulder. Be thankful that you don't work for her or with her.
Joshbrown
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Excerpt from Dave's article. Surprised it was pulled.
http://www.twitlonger.com/show/n_1sprkpl
For this to happen at the University of Iowa is beyond inexcusable. The jury’s decision shows that the actions of athletic director Gary Barta have brought shame and humiliation down upon Grant’s House. The UI broke the law. It spit on the foundation and memory of everything that Grant and her peers built, and continue to build.
From the get go, everything about this situation stunk.
Barta said he reassigned Meyer outside of athletics because of a lawsuit being threatened by Griesbaum. But if one followed the trial testimony, the UI’s main beef with Meyer seemed to be that she wasn’t always pleasant to deal with.
Barta testified that Iowa coaches, including football coach Kirk Ferentz and wrestling coach Tom Brands, “felt like they were talked down to by Jane.”
If you’re reading this and you’re a man, you might not be aware how serious an issue this is not just for Meyer, but many women: Women’s workplace demeanor faces far more scrutiny than men’s.
“It’s a Catch-22. Whatever women do at work, they have to do it nicely,” psychotherapist Sonya Rhodes told Business Insider in 2014. “But the more you back off, the more they don’t take you seriously.”
http://www.twitlonger.com/show/n_1sprkpl
For this to happen at the University of Iowa is beyond inexcusable. The jury’s decision shows that the actions of athletic director Gary Barta have brought shame and humiliation down upon Grant’s House. The UI broke the law. It spit on the foundation and memory of everything that Grant and her peers built, and continue to build.
From the get go, everything about this situation stunk.
Barta said he reassigned Meyer outside of athletics because of a lawsuit being threatened by Griesbaum. But if one followed the trial testimony, the UI’s main beef with Meyer seemed to be that she wasn’t always pleasant to deal with.
Barta testified that Iowa coaches, including football coach Kirk Ferentz and wrestling coach Tom Brands, “felt like they were talked down to by Jane.”
If you’re reading this and you’re a man, you might not be aware how serious an issue this is not just for Meyer, but many women: Women’s workplace demeanor faces far more scrutiny than men’s.
“It’s a Catch-22. Whatever women do at work, they have to do it nicely,” psychotherapist Sonya Rhodes told Business Insider in 2014. “But the more you back off, the more they don’t take you seriously.”
2 days of a 13 day trial tells me they didn't hear jack squat
Knight78
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You mean like you're doing with Barta? (Since I've been on this forum)
