wow, Jake's got confidence.

[uihawk82]

Still a preponderance of short throws to the outside; safe KF throws I guess. by this chart JR needed a few more completions more than 20 yards

 

[ArvadaHawk]

JR did a very good job of managing the game in the first half. A pick-6, 60 run from scrimmage helped give the Hawks great momentum. JR still struggles to be accurate deep. His throw to Powell was a good one and on target, but it was still a line drive with no margin for error. JR cannot get lift and distance on the ball. When JR tries to drive a pass in the 15-25 yard range, he throws high. Yes, JR looked good, today. But his deficiencies are still there and that will come back to haunt the Hawks, again.

But again, he played very well, today. If the passing chart posted in this thread really is from Hawkeye Game Film, then the box will soon be stacked, again, with 8,9 or more. Then, goodbye run game. Don't think we'll score enough points with JR to win the west. The Hawks perimeter run D was exposed today and jNW, Goofey, WUs and kNU can exploit it. Also, don't forget that IU had to play a qb with no pass attempts for 2.5 qtrs. Their offense was handcuffed.

 

[RADMAN]

Jake played well in the first quarter/lst half, but what happened I think is a "flash in the pan sort of thing." CJB did not really have a lot of time in the game to do his thing and most of the fireworks happened while Jake was in there.

I'm sure CJB's services will be far from done this year (maybe even the 2nd half).

Did you actually watch CJB's first series? He looked lost. He missed the dish to Parker on the option, he threw two very bad passes and had a three and out. I give Kirk credit for getting him in early but he showed no spark. The whining will go on all year, even if we run the table. Pathetic.

 

[cecilB]

I am also a CJ supporter and would like CJ to run the zone-read option for Iowa at a minimum.

Jake played just about flawlessly and looked to push the ball down the field. Huge stones for him to come into a high stress situation and perform like he has.

You guys sound like republican and democrats during campaign season.... I'm a Jake supporter, I support CJ. always attacking, while the VAST majority tire of the idiocy.

I'm not singleing you out biased Hawkeye, it's just the one I hit replay on. I agree with you .... Not the zone read, but there were option plays w/CJ today. Just caused Maryland to spend tome preparing for it.

 

[Jjgoiowa11]

Still a preponderance of short throws to the outside; safe KF throws I guess. by this chart JR needed a few more completions more than 20 yards

Serious question, can jake throw a deep ball... Like hard and with zip? Serious McSerious here

 

[HaydenHawk56]

Did you actually watch CJB's first series? He looked lost. He missed the dish to Parker on the option, he threw two very bad passes and had a three and out. I give Kirk credit for getting him in early but he showed no spark. The whining will go on all year, even if we run the table. Pathetic.

The ole did you actually watch the game/player question. Really?

How about the play calls they actually gave CJ which do not fit what he does best. True, the read option has allowed him to make some plays with his feet, but only one pass play I can think of went down field when he was in the game (which resulted in a pass interference penalty). CJB looked like he was set-up to fail play-calling wise from the staff. I would not call his playing time today "significant minutes". More like throw CJB a bone while Jake gets to wolf down the main meal.

Once again, Jake had a pretty good game and this is not a knock on Jake. It is just Jake did what he normally does and executed pretty well (the short passing game). He had a nice pass to DP for a touchdown. But, the play calling was not objectively favorable for CJB imho.

Clearly Jake is Ferentz's pick. It is what it is. I only hope it works out in the upcoming games.

 

[Thawki]

Chill out Dude.....I said Jake played real well and I gave him credit in that. But, if you look at the 2 and a half quarters or so (or look at the throw chart above on his passes) it was really more of the same. Decent, good, but not spectacular. He had a good game.

I just hope that Kirk does not blow his wadd over a run of a lot of points over a short time span and forget about the things CJB did in Jake's absence. As I think that sequence is probably more the exception and not the rule (but it would be great if it was the rule!).

Actually, if you look at your post, you said he played well for a quarter and a half. That is not the same as saying he played really well, which is what I said. When looking at your entire post and not taking a couple of words out of context, you basically paid Jake a back-handed compliment. That isn't anything close to giving him credit.

That is the way I saw your post as I looked at it more than once before responding. Now, maybe you meant it differently, and admittedly one cannot really read tone of voice from the printed word. But there are enough people that are trying any way they can to justify giving Bethard time that they are willing to read things in a way that justifies putting CJ in there, no matter what Jake does.

I am one of those that would really like to see CJ more, and I wanted him to start today. But I am willing to recognize that Jake got the playing time today that he deserved, based upon how he played.

 

[HaydenHawk56]

Actually, if you look at your post, you said he played well for a quarter and a half. That is not the same as saying he played really well, which is what I said. When looking at your entire post and not taking a couple of words out of context, you basically paid Jake a back-handed compliment. That isn't anything close to giving him credit.

You said that, not me......I gave Jake credit. He played decent for most of the game, the first quarter looked real good. He did his typical short passing game stuff overall, but it was executed well. He had a good game....and I think the coaches gave him more to work with play calling wise......unlike CJB today. Clearly, CJB was #2 in the their game planning and "significant minutes" was a mirage.

That is the way I saw your post as I looked at it more than once before responding. Now, maybe you meant it differently, and admittedly one cannot really read tone of voice from the printed word. But there are enough people that are trying any way they can to justify giving Bethard time that they are willing to read things in a way that justifies putting CJ in there, no matter what Jake does.

I really don't care who is in there (actually I want the best guy in there) as long as the team is winning. I do think CJ is the guy, but that is ultimately the coaches call.

i am one of those that would really like to see CJ more, and I wanted him to start today. But I am willing to recognize that Jake got the pt today that he deserved, based upon how he played.

 

[hawkjunkie]

Was great in the first quarter or so... then It was the same Iowa no offensive team we know.

Yes, Rudock had a good first half, but then the O stagnated. The usual under Ferentz. The problem isn't Rudock, it is the play calling. I wouldn't necessarily blame GD either. No, I would blame KF for that. The same thing happened with KOK... It will be interesting when BF takes over OC next year, and how father & son deal with Kirk's conservatism.

 

[OkstHawk]

The ole did you actually watch the game/player question. Really?

How about the play calls they actually gave CJ which do not fit what he does best. True, the read option has allowed him to make some plays with his feet, but only one pass play I can think of went down field when he was in the game (which resulted in a pass interference penalty). CJB looked like he was set-up to fail play-calling wise from the staff. I would not call his playing time today "significant minutes". More like throw CJB a bone while Jake gets to wolf down the main meal.

Once again, Jake had a pretty good game and this is not a knock on Jake. It is just Jake did what he normally does and executed pretty well (the short passing game). He had a nice pass to DP for a touchdown. But, the play calling was not objectively favorable for CJB imho.

Clearly Jake is Ferentz's pick. It is what it is. I only hope it works out in the upcoming games.

Funny you should mention that the play calling for CJB looked like they were setting him up to fail. My FIL and I were watching the game and after his second series we looked at each other and said the same thing. The play calling for him was atrocious...this staff (and KF in particular) have their guy...they don't want to see CJB do much of anything. They will throw him a bone or two but they gave him the big old middle finger today. Hope the kid realizes he's got special talent, would hate for him to sit on the bench behind captain check down for another year while he could be learning the system somewhere else for a staff that wants the kid to succeed. Hey...maybe Arkansas would take him?

 

[HaydenHawk56]

Funny you should mention that the play calling for CJB looked like they were setting him up to fail. My FIL and I were watching the game and after his second series we looked at each other and said the same thing. The play calling for him was atrocious...this staff (and KF in particular) have their guy...they don't want to see CJB do much of anything. They will throw him a bone or two but they gave him the big old middle finger today. Hope the kid realizes he's got special talent, would hate for him to sit on the bench behind captain check down for another year while he could be learning the system somewhere else for a staff that wants the kid to succeed. Hey...maybe Arkansas would take him?

I agree......I would hate to lose him to transfer, but you never know what a kid will do if he could get meaningful starting time somewhere else.

I thought Kirk was pretty smug when mentioning how he thought Jake has been practicing well, thought he would play well, then kind of smirked and said he thought CJ would to.

Jake is his guy for sure. Kirk needed Jake to play well today to re-establish his image with the fans and the media (show who is boss). And they gave him the narrative to make it fit. Thankfully for Kirk, the Indiana QB went down.

To be a fly on the wall in there. Once again, Jake played a good game and real good 1st quarter (and yes he looked better than CJ today, but I think that had to do with circumstances at least partially), but we really can't realistically expect a 28 point first quarter under this staff game in and game out and with the conservative style and slightly vertically challenged arm (in comparison to CJB) that Jake possesses. The sample size would indicate this. And, the longer CJB holds the clip board, the more potential for rust and doubt can creep into his mind. Is CJ always going to come to the rescue when Jake starts going sidewards only to be yanked again when the going gets good?

I really hope for Jake's sake (since he is Kirk's pick) that he can have a solid performance game in and game out from now on in so it does not come to that. Sadly for CJ I'm not sure what really his role is right now with the team other than maybe a highly touted tease of the coaching staff. He probably deserves better.

All this said, like I made mention several days ago, sometime it does not seem to matter who plays the QB position over time with this staff as they seem to be challenged with the play-calling and regression.

 

[ArvadaHawk]

I agree......I would hate to lose him to transfer, but you never know what a kid will do if he could get meaningful starting time somewhere else.

I thought Kirk was pretty smug when mentioning how he thought Jake has been practicing well, thought he would play well, then kind of smirked and said he thought CJ would to.

Jake is his guy for sure. Kirk needed Jake to play well today to re-establish his image with the fans and the media (show who is boss). And they gave him the narrative to make it fit. Thankfully for Kirk, the Indiana QB went down.

To be a fly on the wall in there. Once again, Jake played a good game and real good 1st quarter (and yes he looked better than CJ today, but I think that had to do with circumstances at least partially), but we really can't realistically expect a 28 point first quarter under this staff game in and game out and with the conservative style and slightly vertically challenged arm (in comparison to CJB) that Jake possesses. The sample size would indicate this. And, the longer CJB holds the clip board, the more potential for rust and doubt can creep into his mind. Is CJ always going to come to the rescue when Jake starts going sidewards only to be yanked again when the going gets good?

I really hope for Jake's sake (since he is Kirk's pick) that he can have a solid performance game in and game out from now on in so it does not come to that. Sadly for CJ I'm not sure what really his role is right now with the team other than maybe a highly touted tease of the coaching staff. He probably deserves better.

All this said, like I made mention several days ago, sometime it does not seem to matter who plays the QB position over time with this staff as they seem to be challenged with the play-calling and regression.

I really don't think we'll be able to score enough points to win the West, with JR. And, yes, CJ got the salute from KF yesterday. I wouldn't be surprised to see CJ transfer to a small southern school where he doesn't have to sit a year and can play 2 years.

 

[HawkeyeWalker]

For the guy getting most of the first team practice reps it works out great. For the guy getting the leftovers, not so much.

I've seen a few posts like this. Do we know how the ratio of reps have been over the last couple weeks?

60/40? 50/50? 70/30?

It would seem to make sense for the named starter to get more practice reps, but I don't know how they are split.

 

[NCHawker]

you know there are so many things that a QB has to do right, before he gets around to showing off his arm. 1) know the playbook, 2) know how to read a defense, 3) Know how to get the team into the right play before the snap and 4) execute against all of that. Im sure there is more. I like CJ a lot. Yesterday he didn't take hold of his chance to pass up Rudock. I only saw 1 throw of Rudock's where I thought ' CJ would have made that throw '. So its back to Jake.

 

[cecilB]

I really don't think we'll be able to score enough points to win the West, with JR. And, yes, CJ got the salute from KF yesterday. I wouldn't be surprised to see CJ transfer to a small southern school where he doesn't have to sit a year and can play 2 years.

Or he keeps getting time as a Soph and Jr., taking the reigns full time as a senior if he's better than the backup some of you will be clamoring for then. Not everyone takes their ball and runs home. FWIW people were saying Jake would/should do the same thing as he watched Vandy in 2012

 

[Knight78]

I've seen a few posts like this. Do we know how the ratio of reps have been over the last couple weeks?

60/40? 50/50? 70/30?

It would seem to make sense for the named starter to get more practice reps, but I don't know how they are split.

Neither does anyone else on this board.

 

[DJL]

I have been team CJ because I feel like long term, he gives us a bigger weapon. But, when we score 45 points, no matter how they were scored, I don't really care who the quarterback is. I am happy Jake played well, and I am happy we won. At the end of the day, I just want wins.

 

[STILLBUSTER]

Yes, Rudock had a good first half, but then the O stagnated. The usual under Ferentz. The problem isn't Rudock, it is the play calling. I wouldn't necessarily blame GD either. No, I would blame KF for that. The same thing happened with KOK... It will be interesting when BF takes over OC next year, and how father & son deal with Kirk's conservatism.

wadafuq?

BF at OC - meh. [ fill in blank - GD ] at OC ... don't toy with my fragile hopes, son.

 

[hwk23]

35% of Rudock's throws were medium or deep (10+ yards) against Indiana. That's a BIG improvement for him. He was at 21% in the previous games. CJ's was at 37% going into the game so JR's game against Indiana is probably where we need to be.

 

[homes]

I am also a CJ supporter and would like CJ to run the zone-read option for Iowa at a minimum.

Jake played just about flawlessly and looked to push the ball down the field. Huge stones for him to come into a high stress situation and perform like he has.

That same attribute will serve him well as a doctor, probably moreso.