HaydenHawk56
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Not like he is reliable/consistant in the flow of the game or in the clutch, but does this really impact the team at all? He is a better defender than Jok though.
With losing Oglesby to injury, does this cost Iowa any early games?
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LawVHawk
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Can't this be discussed in the other Oglesby thread?
JonnyGuido
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With or without him, this team will lose to a team they aren't supposed to early. Bad shooting teams will run into an inferior team who brings it, shoots well, and pulls an upset. It could be tomorrow night with a 5th yr sr pg and 4 returning starters. We looked real real bad against auggie. Hope I'm wrong. I see us as a .500 big ten team so no bad losses is a must.
HawkeyeRyno
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I think Iowa will lose to a bad team regardless. This just makes it more likely now. Let us not forget Iowa lost to Campbell - CAMPBELL!!!! Then to Nebraska last season. They MUST avoid those but this is Iowa and they always lose a few of these every year. It's become expected. Iowa is too poor of a shooting team without any difference makers to avoid them.
ibahawkeye
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I actually have voiced my opinion that I thought his shooting would be improved this year. But that is pure judgement and just going off his numbers from last year, the answer is no. His 20% (I don't remember the exact %) three point shooting won't be missed. Looking at who will replace his minutes, mike g's time will probably be devoted to the 2 spot and Clemmons can handle the back up pg minutes and of course jok will play some 2 as well.
I really struggle to understand how a long, athletic jok can be such a downgrade defensively from ogles he who's D I think is overrated by some anyways. They typicall play zone when he's in the game so he doesn't have to match up which is what I imagine what they'll do with jok.
I really struggle to understand how a long, athletic jok can be such a downgrade defensively from ogles he who's D I think is overrated by some anyways. They typicall play zone when he's in the game so he doesn't have to match up which is what I imagine what they'll do with jok.
ssckelley
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Are we running out of room?
ssckelley
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Dang, that loss to Campbell was 2 years ago.
How early are you talking about, like pre Battle for Atlantis early or just non-conf early? Either way, care to wager on that?
FBletterman
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For those who know BB Josh shot might not be falling but he's a good defender, passer and doesn't make mistakes or turn the ball over. What I saw of Jok in the Exhibition was someone who is a big liability on defense. Jok shot needs to be falling at a very high rate for him to see the court to off set his poor defensive play.
STILLBUSTER
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Not a single game all season will be lost due to JO's injury.
JonDMiller
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Some folks are forgetting Jeff Horner shot .277 or so one year or that three of Brody Boyd's four years were even or worse than what Josh shot as a freshman. Iowa needs him and will need him.
Others forget that Horner was a PG and not a 3 point specialist.
tm3308
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Others still forget that Horner ended up being a pretty good 3-point shooter. Is Oglesby going to be a 50% shooter? Probably not. But I'd happily take 35-40% from him.
Mike is coming back from a broken hand, not a torn ACL.. He will be fine.
STILLBUSTER
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If Marble or MG get in foul trouble, we will be in trouble, regardless of JO's injury.
I get your inference but disagree with your reasoning. JO could provide a serviceable player to fill-in for them for a couple minutes, and he allegedly has potential to contribute on offense, but in no way shape or form is JO going to replace Roy-Dev or Mike, or even Sapp, in the back-court.
As someone mentioned (above or in the original thread), this injury is low-impact -- somewhere 9th - 11th in significance -- and will have absolutely zero impact on W's / L's.
STILLBUSTER
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He's talking about the "stress reaction" in his foot at the end of last season. I agree, he should be fine but since this was a lingering injury from simply playing a lot, hopefully it's fully healed and won't flare up again.
THAT would be an injury that could possibly cost Iowa some games.
