Wisconsin given the game by the refs
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HawkPrdatr40
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lol now your really reaching. lol.. Guess you forgot about the title of the thread.. hahaha!
deanvogs
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Everyone understands it was a horribly officiated game. Probably the worst I can ever remember, and easily the worst officiated final four game of my lifetime, and the bad calls went both ways.
When you end the game with 3 horrible calls all favoring one team, I'm not sure how anyone can't see how that is beneficial. Nobody has argued those calls at all, as everyone knows that Wisconsin benefited from those calls. The mob logic seems to be saying that since UK had horrible calls in their favor earlier, that then it is ok for the officials to blow calls to favor Wisconsin. I don't get that logic myself, but it seems to be like peeing into the wind on this one. Everyone seems to want more bad officiating to make up for earlier bad officiating??? Doesn't compute with me, but 100% of the time my thinking is much more advanced than the mob mentality.....so I won't hold this against anyone.
HawkPrdatr40
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Everyone understands it was a horribly officiated game. Probably the worst I can ever remember, and easily the worst officiated final four game of my lifetime, and the bad calls went both ways.
When you end the game with 3 horrible calls all favoring one team, I'm not sure how anyone can't see how that is beneficial. Nobody has argued those calls at all, as everyone knows that Wisconsin benefited from those calls. The mob logic seems to be saying that since UK had horrible calls in their favor earlier, that then it is ok for the officials to blow calls to favor Wisconsin. I don't get that logic myself, but it seems to be like peeing into the wind on this one. Everyone seems to want more bad officiating to make up for earlier bad officiating??? Doesn't compute with me, but 100% of the time my thinking is much more advanced than the mob mentality.....so I won't hold this against anyone.
Ok.. Now I'm really confused..
HawkPrdatr40
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OUTofTOWNHAWK
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I like this thread. Thanks dean
Thawki
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You don't really look like you know much about basketball if you refer to Kentucky as KU. If you know anything about college basketball you know that KU is Kansas and UK is Kentucky. There isn't really any getting around that and no one that knew better would simply mis-type it, either.
I don't mean to be harsh. I'm just saying...
okeefe4prez
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Dean, I'd love to back you up as I'm sure you're right, but I gave up on watching any game involving Wisconsin a few years ago. I did watch the first half of the Iowa-Wisconsin game in IC this year, but when we were shooting some insane percentage and still losing, I shut it down. Watching Wisconsin is an insult to my intelligence and it will only get worse as the "they never foul" mantra becomes further embedded in the collective consciousness. Might miss a great game against Duke on Monday night, but oh well, I'll live.
tm3308
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Everyone understands it was a horribly officiated game. Probably the worst I can ever remember, and easily the worst officiated final four game of my lifetime, and the bad calls went both ways.
When you end the game with 3 horrible calls all favoring one team, I'm not sure how anyone can't see how that is beneficial. Nobody has argued those calls at all, as everyone knows that Wisconsin benefited from those calls. The mob logic seems to be saying that since UK had horrible calls in their favor earlier, that then it is ok for the officials to blow calls to favor Wisconsin. I don't get that logic myself, but it seems to be like peeing into the wind on this one. Everyone seems to want more bad officiating to make up for earlier bad officiating??? Doesn't compute with me, but 100% of the time my thinking is much more advanced than the mob mentality.....so I won't hold this against anyone.
I want a well-officiated game as much as anyone. But I also want a fairly called game. And that non-call on the flagrant robbed Wisconsin of a golden opportunity. If Wisconsin doesn't then get the shot clock no-call and Kentucky had gone on to win by a point or two, Kentucky would have been the one reaping all the rewards for the officials' incompetence (the second charge was weak, as was the reach-in call on Kaminsky).
You might not be part of the mob, but don't pretend that you're thinking rationally. You just hate Wisconsin so much that you really don't care that the game ultimately ended the way it should have. Wisconsin was the better team last night and deserved to win more than Kentucky did.
deanvogs
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You simultaneously missed the point, and got the point.
I will go slowly for those who can't seem to keep up with the logic here. The 3 blown calls tilted the game to Wisconsin, without those 3 critical blown calls Wisconsin can't overcome the blown calls that earlier benefited UK. Either way, blown calls were gonna determine the winner.
I'm not sure how this is anti Wisconsin?? Wisconsin benefited from blown calls, just as UK did. Wisconsin just happened to received the last blown calls that tilted the game back in their favor. I don't root for the one and dones.
FranklinHawk
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You're talking plenty slow, that's just not what you said in the OP plain and simple. Had the thread title been "Horrible Officiating" and you had mentioned the terrible calls on both sides you'd likely have everyone here agreeing with you, but you said Wisconsin was given the game and then proceeded to only talk about bad calls that went Wisconsin's way.
On the bolded part above, had the earlier bad calls in favor of Ky not happened maybe Wiscy has a bigger lead and doesn't have to overcome anything.
DP5555
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Exactly.
There's no reason to word it like Wisconsin was given the game when you are admitting the officiating was bad on both sides. Just because Wisconsin had some calls go their way late doesn't mean they were given the game. Had the earlier bad calls been given to them they may not have needed those late ones. It's all hypothetical at that point. Wisconsin deserved to win that game and it certainly wasn't handed to them. They earned it. No matter how much I hate Wisconsin it is disrespectful to say otherwise.
theboat
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I don't think you understand the way a scale works. When one side is heavier, adding weight to the other evens it out. If anything those calls evened it out. I don't think it was even as I still think UK got more favorable officiating. I even turned to the people I was watching with to point out that in the 2nd half the refs realized they needed to keep the streak alive.
NEIChawk
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Like I said earlier, there were occasions on both ends of the court that could've gone either way for the 'Cats and Wisconsin....The shot clock, Koening coming in bounds from out of bounds w/out establishing himself and making a basket, the face slap on Gasser.....These were just a few that really.... really stuck out to me and obviously several others....aaahhh the life of an official...it's not a matter of a game given to them, it's more of a matter of who wanted it more, and we have to tip our hats to the Badgers
Chickenlounge
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MiniMoeHawk
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Kaminsky is black? I must have missed that story
FranklinHawk
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It was a reference to Harrison's comment at the press conference.
deanvogs
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The fatter you are, the harder the scale works. I'm not sure what a scale has to do with officials or a basketball game though.....I was unawares that they used them for that.
