Wisconsin Football Program Indiscretions?

[MelroseHawkins]

You ever wonder why you never hear of any Wisconsin Badger football players getting into any kind of trouble, hell, even basketball players or any Wisconsin athletes, men or women? Do they really run that clean of a program and how do they do it year after year?

I have a relative who rows for the Women's Wisconsin Crew team and her father provided me a little insight earlier this spring. Secondary to Title IX, the women's rowing team gets the exact same or very similar benefits to what the football players get. This includes similar meal plans, cool apparel for their sport and other benefits afforded the football players. This is because the number of women crew athletes is most similar to the number of football players on a team, so those two sports are matched up. I suspect this is consistent with most if not all universities that have both sports.

I found another "benefit" very interesting that she received that the football players also receive, and I suspect basketball as well. As a freshman, she was handed something called a "Police Liaison" card, similar to a business card that she could take with her at any time, such as when out with friends, etc.. Apparently, if she were to unfortunately get into a little bind, she was to call this police liaison to help navigate the situation and help her out.

I not sure I really have a problem with it and seem pretty indifferent to it, but I was curious how many universities have this? Apparently Iowa does not and police are not shy about writing tickets for every player indiscretion. Is it fair? Hopefully I'm not in the wrong for posting this and have put off posting this all summer, but found it interesting and wondered how many know about this. Part of me thinks it is wrong and the other part thinks, well that is the way it is in Badgerland.

So, does Wisconsin really run that squeaky clean of a program or do they just do a better job of suppressing indiscretions?

 

[hawkdrummer1]

 

[HuckFinn]

You ever wonder why you never hear of any Wisconsin Badger football players getting into any kind of trouble, hell, even basketball players or any Wisconsin athletes, men or women? Do they really run that clean of a program and how do they do it year after year?

I have a relative who rows for the Women's Wisconsin Crew team and her father provided me a little insight earlier this spring. Secondary to Title IX, the women's rowing team gets the exact same or very similar benefits to what the football players get. This includes similar meal plans, cool apparel for their sport and other benefits afforded the football players. This is because the number of women crew athletes is most similar to the number of football players on a team, so those two sports are matched up. I suspect this is consistent with most if not all universities that have both sports.

I found another "benefit" very interesting that she received that the football players also receive, and I suspect basketball as well. As a freshman, she was handed something called a "Police Liaison" card, similar to a business card that she could take with her at any time, such as when out with friends, etc.. Apparently, if she were to unfortunately get into a little bind, she was to call this police liaison to help navigate the situation and help her out.

I not sure I really have a problem with it and seem pretty indifferent to it, but I was curious how many universities have this? Apparently Iowa does not and police are not shy about writing tickets for every player indiscretion. Is it fair? Hopefully I'm not in the wrong for posting this and have put off posting this all summer, but found it interesting and wondered how many know about this. Part of me thinks it is wrong and the other part thinks, well that is the way it is in Badgerland.

So, does Wisconsin really run that squeaky clean of a program or do they just do a better job of suppressing indiscretions?

Very interesting post. I live in Wisconsin and had never really thought about the fact that I cannot remember reading any newspaper articles about Badger athletes' legal issues. I do think they run a clean program, so I am not jumping to any conclusions. In no way are you wrong for posting your thoughts. You have been clear that you are not accusing WI of anything.

 

[Hawk1960]

What happens in Madison ... stays in Madison.

 

[MelroseHawkins]

Very interesting post. I live in Wisconsin and had never really thought about the fact that I cannot remember reading any newspaper articles about Badger athletes' legal issues. I do think they run a clean program, so I am not jumping to any conclusions. In no way are you wrong for posting your thoughts. You have been clear that you are not accusing WI of anything.

I actually have a lot of respect for Wisconsin. If either of my boys ever wanted to go there or got an opportunity there it wouldn't bother me at all. I found it interesting.

 

[Grady]

As someone who works with at-risk African-American youth in Waterloo, we could use a few of those cards.
The problem is this discretionary stuff happens all the time, even without cards. My son and a couple friends did something really stupid years ago when he was in early h.s., and got hauled down to the station. Just so happens that my son's Middle School police officer happened to be on duty that night. He told the other officers that my son was "a good kid, from a good family", and the officers agreed to not file charges unless the person whose house had been vandalized wanted to. The victim said if they repaired the damage within 48 hours, no charges. So, no charges were ever filed, even tho massive amounts of illegal alcohol, open containers, property damage, etc were involved -- all because they were "good kids from good families." We felt lucky, but it also made me feel kind of sick at the injustice of it all. It was the definition of privilege.

 

[Northside Hawk]

And Quentin Cephus was acquitted of his charges within the past week. His side was able to convince the jury that the girls that he and Danny Davis took back to his apartment complex were not intoxicated and freely and willingly participated in whatever took place at the apartment. Surveillance both downtown and outside the apartment supported the claim that the women were not intoxicated. Their claim, of course, is that they were drunk, had little or no memory of the evening, and were forced to consent against their will.

While Cephus is cleared of what would been a serious felony, he is still more than done as a football player at Wisconsin. He was dismissed from the team independent of the legal investigation and expelled academically from the University.

 

[MelroseHawkins]

As someone who works with at-risk African-American youth in Waterloo, we could use a few of those cards.
The problem is this discretionary stuff happens all the time, even without cards. My son and a couple friends did something really stupid years ago when he was in early h.s., and got hauled down to the station. Just so happens that my son's Middle School police officer happened to be on duty that night. He told the other officers that my son was "a good kid, from a good family", and the officers agreed to not file charges unless the person whose house had been vandalized wanted to. The victim said if they repaired the damage within 48 hours, no charges. So, no charges were ever filed, even tho massive amounts of illegal alcohol, open containers, property damage, etc were involved -- all because they were "good kids from good families." We felt lucky, but it also made me feel kind of sick at the injustice of it all. It was the definition of privilege.

I lived in Waterloo from 1997 to 2012, on Colby Rd just S of Lou Henry. I grew up about 45 minutes North of 'Loo so that is where we always went to shop when younger.

 

[koralakers]

This is a GREAT point. A number of years ago our boys (football players)were getting “in trouble” as much or more than almost all other teams in country. And you can’t tell me our boys “party” any more or less than other schools. It’s a know fact the ICPD and CPD have always had a hard-on for the football players (it was during my 5 years there).

I firmly believe, at an $EC school, if a football player was caught at a triple-homicide with bloody knife in-hand, the police would escort him out the back (with a promise to later sign a football for his daughter)

 

[GesterHawk]

Please take a picture of said "Tom Osborne" card and send it the the NCAA to ensure it is up to their standards of fair play.

 

[MoseSchrute]

I not sure I really have a problem with it and seem pretty indifferent to it, but I was curious how many universities have this?

How could you not have a problem with it? Special treatment. Of course, lots of people get special treatment...just depends on who you are.

 

[kicker22]

I've heard E. Lansing's PD hands out Izzo and Dantonio business cards in the event their officers ever encounter an athlete and need legal advise as to how to handle the situation.

 

[NikeHawk21]

And Quentin Cephus was acquitted of his charges within the past week. His side was able to convince the jury that the girls that he and Danny Davis took back to his apartment complex were not intoxicated and freely and willingly participated in whatever took place at the apartment. Surveillance both downtown and outside the apartment supported the claim that the women were not intoxicated. Their claim, of course, is that they were drunk, had little or no memory of the evening, and were forced to consent against their will.

While Cephus is cleared of what would been a serious felony, he is still more than done as a football player at Wisconsin. He was dismissed from the team independent of the legal investigation and expelled academically from the University.

The case against Cephus never should have even made it to trial. The District Attorney was the one who pushed it there. The jury found Cephus not guilty on both charges in less than 45 minutes of deliberation.

Also note that Cephus has applied for immediate reinstatement at the university this week with hopes of re-joining the team.

Honestly I have no idea why he would want to play at Madison as the University completely bailed on him. It will be interesting to see what the University does. It could be a shitstorm if they don’t allow him back, but there is a lot more too it than that I suspect. At one point he was countersuing the university but had to drop the case prior to his trial.

 

[kicker22]

The case against Cephus never should have even made it to trial. The District Attorney was the one who pushed it there. The jury found Cephus not guilty on both charges in less than 45 minutes of deliberation.

Also note that Cephus has applied for immediate reinstatement at the university this week with hopes of re-joining the team.

Honestly I have no idea why he would want to play at Madison as the University completely bailed on him. It will be interesting to see what the University does. It could be a shitstorm if they don’t allow him back, but there is a lot more too it than that I suspect. At one point he was countersuing the university but had to drop the case prior to his trial.

Yeah based on the way things played out I'm amazed he'd even consider returning to Madison and shocked that he's applied for reinstatement. Guess he really wants to be a Badger.

 

[TJHawkeye]

Wisky just wants to win. Some of us have to handicap ourselves by being squeaky clean, but I don't think it is possible to win a NC in this day and age unless you are dancing on the rules fence and maybe crossing the border once in a while. The recruits don't seem to have a problem with that.

 

[kameltoez102]

Yeah based on the way things played out I'm amazed he'd even consider returning to Madison and shocked that he's applied for reinstatement. Guess he really wants to be a Badger.

Lets just say the opportunity would ever present itself. Would you be interested in having him on the Iowa team?

I find it hard to believe that the Badgers would bring him back, but you never know.

 

[NikeHawk21]

Lets just say the opportunity would ever present itself. Would you be interested in having him on the Iowa team?

I find it hard to believe that the Badgers would bring him back, but you never know.

The Wisconsin Football program absolutely would welcome him back with open arms, right now this is a issue with the university. The university expelled him during the process and he filed a countersuit against the university (which he ultimately dropped). That’s where the hair is, if the university reinstates him he will be back on the football team instantly.

As for Iowa, yes I would absolutely take him. Let’s remember here he was found not guilty on all charges. That doesn’t mean there is some sort of stain over him now, he was found not guilty by a jury in less than 45 minutes.

 

[Xerxes]

The Wisconsin Football program absolutely would welcome him back with open arms, right now this is a issue with the university. The university expelled him during the process and he filed a countersuit against the university (which he ultimately dropped). That’s where the hair is, if the university reinstates him he will be back on the football team instantly.

As for Iowa, yes I would absolutely take him. Let’s remember here he was found not guilty on all charges. That doesn’t mean there is some sort of stain over him now, he was found not guilty by a jury in less than 45 minutes.

While this is absolutely true, the court of public opinion could see things very differently. Just to be accused of something like this these days leaves a stain. Particularly with womens' rights groups that may view this as another example of a male athlete getting away with sexual assault of a female which has been in the news at many college campuses and major cities of professional franchises quite a bit lately.

I don't know a whole lot about this case but we're talking about a large college campus where there are going to be a lot of people with a lot of different views. And with sensitivity being at an all time high the university may look at this and say, "not worth the trouble".

 

[okeefe4prez]

And with sensitivity being at an all time high the university may look at this and say, "not worth the trouble".

As a Hawk fan, I hope he is done. But as an American, I hope to Gawd that he is reinstated unless there is evidence of malfeasance beyond what was presented at the trial. These snowflakes hate, just absolutely loathe, due process. But Mr. Bochephus is entitled to it and Wisconsin, as a state entity, has a bedrock duty to provide it irregardless of what the snowflakes think. Creating millions of Angry Studies majors was a big mistake. Giving Angry Studies majors some sort of veto right on every freaking decision from boardrooms to the government will pose an existential crisis for our country.

 

[Ben Rumson]

As a Hawk fan, I hope he is done. But as an American, I hope to Gawd that he is reinstated unless there is evidence of malfeasance beyond what was presented at the trial. These snowflakes hate, just absolutely loathe, due process. But Mr. Bochephus is entitled to it and Wisconsin, as a state entity, has a bedrock duty to provide it irregardless of what the snowflakes think. Creating millions of Angry Studies majors was a big mistake. Giving Angry Studies majors some sort of veto right on every freaking decision from boardrooms to the government will pose an existential crisis for our country.

God out
Guns out
Free speech only if you speak like them
All white people racist
Guilty until proven inocent
Borders open
College free - bye football
Socialism

And people were afraid their constitutional rights were going to be taken away and freedoms lost.