Will KF ever be the aggressor?

skinnykilmer17

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We were outplayed and outCOACHED. Again with over 1:00 and two timeouts we sit down. Why? We have 4th and 1 in OT and sit down. Why? Was this the right approach? Is this the right approach if you want to take this program to an even higher level? Not to mention ISU clearly was more prepared for this game. Take away their early turnovers we may have been fortunate to be in the game. Why?
 
If you have a great defense you can get away with conservative play calling. But this Iowa defense is not great and they better start getting more aggresive on offense or this will be a long season.
 
how long has the KF been the coach at IOWA? and you still have to ask that question...

that is a clear cut NO.. if it hasnt happened by now, it never wiill
 
No.

Job security, conservative.

How does this surprise people?

Iowa has the longest tenured coach in the Big Ten and this is what we've seen each and every year.
 
In most cases I understand when Kirk is conservative... But today ... we needed to be aggressive. Our dline looked like the 3 stooges out there trying to run Chance down ... Why, at the end of regulation when you have the ball with 1:15 or so, do you sit on the fricking ball? Our dline was tired .... We were getting blown away on the d-side of things ... Go for the win ... Let Vandy toss an interception ... I don't care ... Would much rather lose the game being the aggressor and going for the win versus putting the ball back in the hands of the 'vaunted' (at least today) ISU offense ... And on 4 and 1 ... in the third overtime and ISU was called for a penalty -- making it 4 and 1 ... go for the fricking first down! A field goal was not going to win this flipping game. We needed seven ...
 
The answer is "no". Many times in the past when faced with criticism about his lack of agression, he'll make a gutsy call the next game...which usually fails...then he uses that failure to make a smarmy comment and justify continuing his conservative ways.

Winners tend to be aggressive in situations like Iowa faced today. Losers play "not to lose".

All that came out of this is Kirk sent a very clear message to his players: "I don't trust you."
 
Vandenberg took a step back for the most part after last week. Coker slightly improved, but still mediocre. So I understand not trying to go for the win in regulation.

But after Iowa scored their second TD in overtime, I say go for the win. You haven't been able to stop Jantz at all, with a short field you have to assume they'll put it in again, so go for two to win it. Don't make it, oh well.
 
Iowa had not stopped ISU from scoring a TD on their last 3 possessions and KF suddenly thinks we will stop them and kicks a FG.
 
how long has the KF been the coach at IOWA? and you still have to ask that question...

that is a clear cut NO.. if it hasnt happened by now, it never wiill

It was rhetorical, I suppose. It is so frustrating. We lost 4, almost 5 defensive players to the NFL this past year. It is incumbent to think "out of the box" and be aggressive on offense. But we fall back into the same pattern plus he shrinks from an aggressive stance time after time.

We had a tired defense and an opposing qb who was wearing us out. So you decide to go to OT because you thought you would outlast them? You show power by running it down their throat for the first touchdown in OT but then eventually pass on gaining one yard or less only to give their qb another chance to exploit a tired defense.

But I suppose he will never change thus we will never advance too far and win the "BigONE(s)".
 
When was the last time you heard that Doyle was making the team the best conditioned group in college football? By the end of the game our D-line can't stand up much less rush the passer. I'm tired of watching "Groundhogs Day".
 
The answer is "no". Many times in the past when faced with criticism about his lack of agression, he'll make a gutsy call the next game...which usually fails...then he uses that failure to make a smarmy comment and justify continuing his conservative ways.

Winners tend to be aggressive in situations like Iowa faced today. Losers play "not to lose".

All that came out of this is Kirk sent a very clear message to his players: "I don't trust you."


Exactly. We will run a flea flicker, triple reverse, hail mary next week, and when they ask him about it, he will say" Well the fans have been wanting to see that one, and so I guess they know more than I do, since they all play Nintendo and stuff".
 
Our opponents see man-to-man on the outside and lick their chops. We see man-to-man on the outside and run up the middle. Nuff said
 
When was the last time you heard that Doyle was making the team the best conditioned group in college football? By the end of the game our D-line can't stand up much less rush the passer. I'm tired of watching "Groundhogs Day".

Careful. Seriously. That kind of talk will only land a dozen or so players in the hospital come January.

4 guys can't continously rush against 5 or 6 blockers without the benefit of blitzes, PLUS chasing down a qb who is very elusive and an excellent runner.

*See Dan Persa etc.
 
We were outplayed and outCOACHED. Again with over 1:00 and two timeouts we sit down. Why? We have 4th and 1 in OT and sit down. Why? Was this the right approach? Is this the right approach if you want to take this program to an even higher level? Not to mention ISU clearly was more prepared for this game. Take away their early turnovers we may have been fortunate to be in the game. Why?

I look at it this way. After 20 years of marriage do I expect my wife to close cabinets doors after she opens them to look for something? Of course not. Now would I like for it to happen? Sure.

I can either accept it and stay with her or do without her. In the big picture I think i'll stay with her. The grass is not always greener my friend.
 

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