Several big ten teams do play a tougher opponent than anyone Iowa has played. That's still only one game in a 12 game season, so overall the SOS isn't drastically different.
Why Barta Signed Ferentz Long Term
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okeefe4prez
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It's absurd to claim that you should win all OOC games. OSU has had some series against Oklahoma, Texas when they were good and USC, Michigan has played Bama and Wisconsin has scheduled some big boys. Iowa hasn't played a really good OOC game bince that Nick Foles-led Arizona team in 2010. But for arrogant fans like you to think Iowa should just dispose of quality teams like Central Michigan or North Dakota State is just total hubris. Everybody has an off day and even Nick lost to Auburn in 2017 and to Clemson in the title game in January of 2017. There's just so much parity.
okeefe4prez
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1 out of 12 is over 8% of the schedule, dude.
Fryowa
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Lol.
Big words from a guy who was here not long ago like a bitch crying for everyone’s forgiveness because he’s embarrassed he can’t hold his liquor and pills (Coors Light and Vicodin if I remember right).
It’s too late, bub, you can’t act tough anymore; you lost that persona when you had your little girly hungover walk of shame. Get a handle on that pill problem and maybe you could be credible on a different board, “bruh.”
Sorry if that sounded arrogant and full of hubris.
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DDThompson
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A good coach can be a great coach at blue chip programs. Ex: Saban.
A good coach can be a good coach at the 2nd tier.
Ex: Saban at MSU and Ferentz at Iowa. Saban bailed on MSU for schools that were top dog in talent rich states. Ferentz stayed at the harder job.
Saban is a HOF coach.
Ferentz is a HOF coach.
A good coach can be a good coach at the 2nd tier.
Ex: Saban at MSU and Ferentz at Iowa. Saban bailed on MSU for schools that were top dog in talent rich states. Ferentz stayed at the harder job.
Saban is a HOF coach.
Ferentz is a HOF coach.
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According to Sagarins SOS rating for 2017, Ohio St"s schedule was rated the 13th toughest in the country. Iowa's schedule was 5th. So despite the fact that OSU had one tougher game against oklahoma, Iowa still had the tougher schedule. This is probably partly due to the fact that OSU doesn't have to play themselves.
And yes, I know that Iowa's schedule isn't always this tough. My point is that one game does not necessarily make for a tough overall SOS.
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DDThompson
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You’re right.
Anyone can pick out an exception or two that proves the rule the OOC schedule is weaker. A ten year or twenty year span? the exceptions don’t matter.
What does matter is Ferentz’s record vs. ISU, NW, and losses to MACesque programs.
I remember Appalachian State beating Michigan because it was a one-off. Ferentz doesn’t have a one-off; he has like a four-off.
He’s still a good coach, every bit as good as Hayden, and will be a HOF coach.
tksirius
HN's Love Doctor
The original post said nothing about the MAC. It said he wins 70% of all games. Kirk has a winning percentage at Iowa of 59.5% and an overall percentage of 56.7%. That's quite a ways from 70%.
If one has to constantly fudge the numbers to make a coach look better than he is, the coach isn't as good as one thinks he is.
SteveGarvey1
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If he was an average coach and Iowa isn't that good of a program, his results would be worse than they are, wouldn't they?
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DDThompson
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Yes. That comment doesn’t hold logic.
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DDThompson
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You forgot the mic drop
Fryowa
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Sorry
tksirius
HN's Love Doctor
That would make sense for Hayden Fry, because Iowa was absolute dogshit prior to Fry. Fry made Iowa a good program. If Ferentz was an above average coach or in some folks' words; a great coach, Iowa would look a whole lot better. Ferentz is somewhere between an average to above average coach, definitely not great or legendary. A lot of Iowa fans are fine with that and that's their choice to feel that way.
NCHawker
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nice piece of research there.
Imagine if someone would have told you THEN that this would be how it looks. We'd say YES to the compensation
Looking back -- You see PSU and UM with some historically bad years during that time and psyco sparty with some really bad and some really good years.
Overall, he's kept the program in the band that hayden took it to.
Most fans just think... "damn... look at Wisconsin".
ChosenChildren
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That's still 8.2 wins per season for Iowa. Very, very good. You are often wrong but never in doubt
tksirius
HN's Love Doctor
FIFY
lightning1
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.595 win % is slightly above average. Iowa has been a slightly above average Big Ten football team since 1980.
Adam
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Those schools were "down" because they were losing and giving way to the rise of Wisconsin, MSU and Iowa. You can't have 6 conference champs. Someone has to lose games.
Kirk is a good coach and runs a consistent program while doing it as clean as Lysol can allow in modern football. He plays +500 football most years with every few years bringing us a really good team for us to get excited about. That said, I think the recruiting is trending upwards. I would really like to see Kirk string together back to back 10 win seasons while getting the recruiting to top 20. That is how I hope he rides out on his horse and passes the baton.
Adam
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Amen!
How Barta survived the Meyer/Grisbaum debacle is beyond me. Not to mention that most AD's wouldn't have survived the Licklitter hire.
