Who"s Leaving?
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OBhawk
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If you mean Wagner, dude is not going to get much PT next year.
eledmonster
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Wagner and Moss came in at the same time, two years with the program. I don't see either going. Uhl could definitely go. For me, the most likely is Dailey but that is certainly not a sure thing and I think he could contribute. I don't see Ellingson going anywhere.
WindsorHawk
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Jok is out of eligibility. Jones started on Senior Day. I'm thinking Williams or Daily is the 3rd guy.
Fran only has 30 minutes per game to distribute (Jok's time) among all the returning players plus 3 incoming freshman. Here are my guesses:
Dailey - didn't play much this year. I'd be surprised if he inherited any of Jok's minutes over the likes of Moss, Ellingson, Williams, Connor McCaffery.
Williams - only plays about 13 minutes per game. With Connor coming next year, he may feel like he won't increase his playing time which could lead to a transfer, since he still has a red-shirt year and 2 years of eligibility. Doubt he leaves, but possible.
Uhl - not going anywhere. Only 1 year of eligibility left, and I believe the team is taking a summer trip to Germany (his home country), and which lower level team is going to sacrifice 2 years of scholarships for only 1 year of playing time?
Moss/Ellingson - they have both used their redshirt years, so any transfer, except for juco, would cost them a year of eligibility, so doubt they leave. Ellingson, entering his 4th year, should graduate next spring, so a chance he could then leave as a grad transfer without sitting out. Moss, I assume, will inherit most of Jok's minutes next year.
Kreiner - I could maybe see him leaving. If he is already behind Wagner, Pemsl & Cook now, and if he assumes Garza & Nunge will surpass him, it might make sense to transfer, use his redshirt, and then have 3 years remaining at his new school.
Dailey - didn't play much this year. I'd be surprised if he inherited any of Jok's minutes over the likes of Moss, Ellingson, Williams, Connor McCaffery.
Williams - only plays about 13 minutes per game. With Connor coming next year, he may feel like he won't increase his playing time which could lead to a transfer, since he still has a red-shirt year and 2 years of eligibility. Doubt he leaves, but possible.
Uhl - not going anywhere. Only 1 year of eligibility left, and I believe the team is taking a summer trip to Germany (his home country), and which lower level team is going to sacrifice 2 years of scholarships for only 1 year of playing time?
Moss/Ellingson - they have both used their redshirt years, so any transfer, except for juco, would cost them a year of eligibility, so doubt they leave. Ellingson, entering his 4th year, should graduate next spring, so a chance he could then leave as a grad transfer without sitting out. Moss, I assume, will inherit most of Jok's minutes next year.
Kreiner - I could maybe see him leaving. If he is already behind Wagner, Pemsl & Cook now, and if he assumes Garza & Nunge will surpass him, it might make sense to transfer, use his redshirt, and then have 3 years remaining at his new school.
WindsorHawk
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Last year Ellingson played 9 minutes a game...didn't look real good most of the time...and many wanted him gone. This year he played 15 minutes a game and was a very important/effective role player for us.
Wagner played 16 minutes a game this year. I've seen various posts suggesting he won't get much playing time next year. But that remains to be seen. He seems to like his teammates and may be accepting of his role. I think he's back next year and in the rotation.
ibahawkeye
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Why just start a thread to create rumors about people leaving?
Moss isn't going anywhere. He'll have as many minutes as he can handle.
Williams will be the backup PG again but will also probably get more minutes and play some 2.
Moss isn't going anywhere. He'll have as many minutes as he can handle.
Williams will be the backup PG again but will also probably get more minutes and play some 2.
WindsorHawk
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Kriener has the basketball IQ and the all around game IMO. He needs to get stronger...much stronger...but I predict he will be an outstanding player for Iowa. He's also an Iowa kid and has played with Bohannon and Pemsl for years.
Unless he loses his toughness and effort on the defensive end, he's going to get playing time at Iowa.
OBhawk
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Its not about creating "rumors". Its about discussion.
The NCAA has pegged the number at various times between 40 and 44 percent, a figure that never seems quite to line up with the 700 or so transfers that ESPN’s Jeff Goodman tallies annually. (If you’ve got 350 teams with 12 players, that’s 4,200, and 700 of them transferring each year is 14 percent … well, how you get to eventually a 40-44 percent transfer rate is beyond my limited understanding of math). Either way, to stretch that to 50 percent is a torturing the truth.
As well, if it’s an “embarrassment to higher education” – well, what does it say for higher education generally that 33 percent of all students will transfer at least once before completing their academic careers?
That's college basketball in 2017. Kids transfer.
theboat
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He'll never play 30 a game but he will absolutely play
BrueCrew3
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I really hope Williams sticks around, but if he is going to leave now would be a good time for him.
Wagner and Uhl each have two an one year (respectively) plus a red-shirt year. They could transfer now, sit out a year to get acclimated to their new team, and be productive for their new team.
I don't see Ellingson leaving as he'd only have a year of eligibility after sitting out.
Dailey appears to be one I would think would move on.
Kriener might leave, but from what I understand he's a Hawk fan and will probably stay.
Bottom line - Given what is coming in next year, Williams, Dailey, and Wagner are my front runners. Uhl is another one, but with one year left he might stick it out.
Just My $.02 .. ..
GO HAWKS!!!
Wagner and Uhl each have two an one year (respectively) plus a red-shirt year. They could transfer now, sit out a year to get acclimated to their new team, and be productive for their new team.
I don't see Ellingson leaving as he'd only have a year of eligibility after sitting out.
Dailey appears to be one I would think would move on.
Kriener might leave, but from what I understand he's a Hawk fan and will probably stay.
Bottom line - Given what is coming in next year, Williams, Dailey, and Wagner are my front runners. Uhl is another one, but with one year left he might stick it out.
Just My $.02 .. ..
GO HAWKS!!!
InGoodCo
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Why would Wagner - who will have 2 years of experience not get playing time? He's been a + this season for Iowa.
ibahawkeye
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Ok, fair enough but if you want to have the discussion, at least throw out names that actually make sense.
Not a guy like Moss who is already a starter as a Freshman with 3 full years ahead of him and Jok graduating and a nucleus of other freshman and a sophomore like Baer that could be good for the next few years to come.
ssckelley
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Moss leaving??? Why would he do that now that Jok is gone and he is the next one in line to get his minutes? Williams and Kreiner played important roles on the team so I don't see them leaving but I wouldn't rule it out completely.
The one that makes me wonder if he even wants to be here is Uhl. But I'm speculating as I have no inside connections to these guys, perhaps he really loves it here and wants to get his degree here.
The one that makes me wonder if he even wants to be here is Uhl. But I'm speculating as I have no inside connections to these guys, perhaps he really loves it here and wants to get his degree here.
ShockHawk22
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For sure- Jok, Jones
Most likely- Dailey
Outside chance- Williams, Kriener
If anyone else leaves, then it means Fran ran them off to free up scholarships or there is some disgruntlement behind the scenes.
Most likely- Dailey
Outside chance- Williams, Kriener
If anyone else leaves, then it means Fran ran them off to free up scholarships or there is some disgruntlement behind the scenes.
InGoodCo
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I would say every transfer Fran has had since being here has been a good thing and in almost all cases it was a circumstance where that player wasn't going to crack heavy playing time without big development and experience. IMO transfers are good at a program as healthy as Iowa's - it's like a re-do for the coaches and you can "miss" on some and still be ok.
