When is Drew Ott red shirt announcement?
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i would like to have some lawyers look into the personal bank accounts of the members making these decisions.
deanvogs
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Yes. The committee just let me know via text, and I'm going to build suspense for awhile before releasing their decision.
docholihawk
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NCAA has a ton of rules and they reserve the right to change the rules for when it's needed, for when it's appropriate and just for the Hell of it to make people angry.
docholihawk
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When a business is inconsistent, lacks communication, does not display high character it is a business out of control. It needs a total upheaval from the top down. It needs a leader who is strong, clear and consistent and holds people accountable. The NCAA is going to implode in time and colleges are going to form their own commission.
deanvogs
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This is what I am actually hoping for. I think if the NCAA follows the letter of the law, Ott is denied. I am hoping they are going outside of the letter of the law, and that is why it is taking time.
99topdawg
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This is the $64,000 question.
Todd McShay
Why wouldn't the NCAA rule on Iowa DT Drew Ott's appeal for extra year of eligibility (tore ACL early last season) prior to the Combine?
HawkeyeWalker
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This is the $64,000 question.
Why wouldn't the NCAA rule on Iowa DT Drew Ott's appeal for extra year of eligibility (tore ACL early last season) prior to the Combine?
This is what bothers me. If the answer is no, they absolutely are doing damage. He couldn't do drills, but he could be their making relationships. The B1G have absolutely failed......not because of what the decision is, but taking this absurd amount of time to make it.
If the answer is no, the Ott family is due an explanation. If that answer is in any way "letter of the law" related, it's absolute BS.
No "facts" have changed in over 5 months.....
It's just strange.
SteveGarvey
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Probably does indicate that there is a hung jury so to speak on this and debate going on. McShay's input probably helps Ott because it would embarrass the B1G at this point if they denied him another year as it would be seen that all their dithering cost him a chance to go to the combine.
The B1G has made a living out of embarrassing themselves. Remember Leaders and Legends?
GesterHawk
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Why do I get the feeling that the Big Ten brass are kind of hoping that Drew gives in and hires an agent or accepts a free T-shirt during the combine so they don't have to make a decision?
Well in the NCAAs defense they could care less about the NFL and their timelines. I would think Iowa would care for wanting to know their scholarship situation and that'd be more pertinent to them. The NFL and Ott himself are at the bottom of the list of who the NCAA cares about. They just want to make a decision that isn't necessarily precedent setting. Or maybe they are just lazy and don't want to yet... There isn't a good reason for not having ruled yet that much is a given.This is the $64,000 question.
Why wouldn't the NCAA rule on Iowa DT Drew Ott's appeal for extra year of eligibility (tore ACL early last season) prior to the Combine?
99topdawg
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From espn.com: Link
[h=1]The frustrating case of Drew Ott's wait[/h]11:40 AM ET
Ott can’t work out. He’s four months into rehab from a torn right ACL suffered against Illinois in Week 6. He underwent surgery on Oct. 22.
With an NFL career on the horizon and his future earnings at stake, Ott was dealt a bad hand by the timing of this injury. But that’s football. People in the game have little control over injuries or the time required to heal.
Drew Ott is seeking a medical-hardship waiver after suffering an ACL tear in Week 6 that ended his senior season, and a dislocated elbow in Week 2 that limited his playing time. Matthew Holst/Getty ImagesAs the April 28-30 draft nears, the frustration in Ott’s camp grows more real. Ott wants to return to Iowa in 2016. The school filed paperwork with the Big Ten late last year, asking the league to grant him a medical-hardship waiver.
The league is tasked to make this decision by deciphering NCAA rules. Guidelines allow for Ott to receive a fifth year -- he has not redshirted -- if he played in 30 percent (or less) of his team’s games in the year at stake and did not compete after the midpoint of the season.
Ott meets the second criteria but not the first. Iowa has asked the Big Ten to consider that Ott dislocated his elbow in Week 2 against Iowa State and played a limited role over the next month.
The Big Ten can interpret Ott’s elbow injury as it wishes. His case may hinge on that point. Yes, it requires more than a basic ruling.
But no one has been asked here to map the human genome.
Unlike Ott’s knee injury and the time required for him to get back in position across the line of scrimmage from an offensive tackle, people control this wait.
Ott deserves for it to end. If he’s done at Iowa, he deserves a chance to move on and make the best of a challenging situation created by the injury.
With potential college eligibility remaining and his case unsettled, Ott can’t sign with an agent and benefit from the expertise available. If denied the fifth year, Ott will have lost this time to capitalize financially on his status as a professional.
And if the Big Ten rules against him, Ott could appeal to the NCAA, though it’s difficult to envision that the NCAA, of all organizations, would offer a swift ruling in advance of the NFL draft.
All of this is puzzling. Iowa offers no details. Coach Kirk Ferentz expressed some optimism on signing day but has remained vague in his comments -- probably because he knows nothing specific. Asked this week for details on the process of Ott’s case, a school official referred questions to the Big Ten.
Scott Chipman, Big Ten associate commissioner for communications, in an emailed response this week, said the league has "no update" and suggested checking back in “the coming weeks.”
Iowa opens spring practice on March 23. Time marches forward, everywhere outside of the Big Ten office.
If an explanation exists for the length of Ott's wait, the Big Ten should offer it.
Illustrated by his affinity for eating raw eggs, Ott is a no-nonsense guy. It’s not in his nature to complain. He’s been working to get healthy and likely aced the interviews in Indianapolis without some of the advantages afforded to his fellow NFL prospects.
That is, if Ott is, in fact, an NFL prospect. He deserves to know.
[h=1]The frustrating case of Drew Ott's wait[/h]11:40 AM ET
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Ott can’t work out. He’s four months into rehab from a torn right ACL suffered against Illinois in Week 6. He underwent surgery on Oct. 22.
With an NFL career on the horizon and his future earnings at stake, Ott was dealt a bad hand by the timing of this injury. But that’s football. People in the game have little control over injuries or the time required to heal.
Drew Ott is seeking a medical-hardship waiver after suffering an ACL tear in Week 6 that ended his senior season, and a dislocated elbow in Week 2 that limited his playing time. Matthew Holst/Getty ImagesAs the April 28-30 draft nears, the frustration in Ott’s camp grows more real. Ott wants to return to Iowa in 2016. The school filed paperwork with the Big Ten late last year, asking the league to grant him a medical-hardship waiver.
The league is tasked to make this decision by deciphering NCAA rules. Guidelines allow for Ott to receive a fifth year -- he has not redshirted -- if he played in 30 percent (or less) of his team’s games in the year at stake and did not compete after the midpoint of the season.
Ott meets the second criteria but not the first. Iowa has asked the Big Ten to consider that Ott dislocated his elbow in Week 2 against Iowa State and played a limited role over the next month.
The Big Ten can interpret Ott’s elbow injury as it wishes. His case may hinge on that point. Yes, it requires more than a basic ruling.
But no one has been asked here to map the human genome.
Unlike Ott’s knee injury and the time required for him to get back in position across the line of scrimmage from an offensive tackle, people control this wait.
Ott deserves for it to end. If he’s done at Iowa, he deserves a chance to move on and make the best of a challenging situation created by the injury.
With potential college eligibility remaining and his case unsettled, Ott can’t sign with an agent and benefit from the expertise available. If denied the fifth year, Ott will have lost this time to capitalize financially on his status as a professional.
And if the Big Ten rules against him, Ott could appeal to the NCAA, though it’s difficult to envision that the NCAA, of all organizations, would offer a swift ruling in advance of the NFL draft.
All of this is puzzling. Iowa offers no details. Coach Kirk Ferentz expressed some optimism on signing day but has remained vague in his comments -- probably because he knows nothing specific. Asked this week for details on the process of Ott’s case, a school official referred questions to the Big Ten.
Scott Chipman, Big Ten associate commissioner for communications, in an emailed response this week, said the league has "no update" and suggested checking back in “the coming weeks.”
Iowa opens spring practice on March 23. Time marches forward, everywhere outside of the Big Ten office.
If an explanation exists for the length of Ott's wait, the Big Ten should offer it.
Illustrated by his affinity for eating raw eggs, Ott is a no-nonsense guy. It’s not in his nature to complain. He’s been working to get healthy and likely aced the interviews in Indianapolis without some of the advantages afforded to his fellow NFL prospects.
That is, if Ott is, in fact, an NFL prospect. He deserves to know.
docholihawk
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If Ott is denied a 5th year I would think he could file a lawsuit against the BIG for denying him a chance to gain financially by preparing to go to the NFL. The way it's playing out I don't feel good about another year of eligibility.
I know it sounds crazy but if the B1G says no, then the NCAA says no, then the Supreme Court says no, then we may have to organize our own sovereign super government with authority over the conference and the ncaa in order to make Ott eligible for next season. I know it sounds like it will take a lot of time but we have until fall camp and the paperwork can be done over a weekend at an office somewhere.
ColumbusHawk
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What lawsuit? Please describe to me how he is being denied an opportunity of preparing to go to the NFL. He is injured. He can't participate in the NFL combine. Even if Ott has an Adrian Peterson like recovery, he would barely make the start of NFL training camps. Heck, even if he is granted a medical hardship he may not be ready to play until the middle of next season or later. He had full blown ACL surgery.
GesterHawk
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Right now if Drew has any hope of coming back, he can't hire an agent. Agents have been spending the last month and a half talking up their players to NFL coaches and GMs. They have also been working with their clients prepping them for the interviews. Drew is missing out on all of this.
Drew can participate in the interviews and still stay eligible as long as he doesn't hire an agent or accept anything from teams or companies.
An argument could be made that he could sue for loss of potential earnings. But I just don't see Drew doing that.
HawkeyeWalker
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Can't hire an agent...that's a huge deal. There is no logic in the decision taking this long, either way. It's BS, regardless of the decision.
That said. Ott won't probably sue. Hell just appeal, rehab. And farm back in nebraska...cause that's the guy he is....and why it's huge if we can get him back, even for half a year.
