Urb not happy with other B1G coaches

[dmackindm]

Joe Pa died and made him pope.

 

[GhostofBTT]

Joe Pa died and made him pope.

 

[Billso]

Not one single person on this board is here because of academics. Not a single one of you

Not true, my good man. Had I attended an SEC institution, today I'd be scrubbing toilets at some Waffle House and could not afford le computer or teh Internet from which I now poast.

Instead, I have leveraged my Iowa degree into a successful career of such financial reward that I can afford THREE computers. THREE of them!

 

[cecilB]

If a dick wad like him ever coached at Iowa, I'd check out of college football. I wonder how the heart condition is progressing....oh I forgot, it was a fraudulent claim.

 

[SmokeTownHawk]

Not sure how we can compete with the SEC with 4 year scholarships, and no oversigning. It's just not possible, and the only way to make it happen is if the NCAA was to make it equal with the 4 year scholarships and limiting the number of medicals you can give to like 2.

The NCAA needs to make this happen across the board for BCS schools but I'd be shocked to see it happen.

 

[treychase]

When the U of Iowa stops caring about academics and when we sucumb to Trey's (ill)logic and take advice from Urban, that will be the day I end my support for the athletic program, the college of education, the alumni association, the student fund raisers for ill children, and shift my loyalty and attention to small college football. And, Trey, do NOT assume that your views represent the majority, or even a significant number of Iowa fans. You are making yourself look very foolish.

Sure you would.

 

[treychase]

The B1G lost any argument involving morals & ethics with Penn St. Gone. Good-bye.
As far as most of this country is concerned, the B1G is the most corrupt, morally ******** group of institutions on the planet.

This chest puffing exercise of believing that the B1G is better because of academia is the most absurd thing I've ever heard. Not one single person on this board is here because of academics. Not a single one of you, so stop acting like you care or that it matters because you don't and it doesn't. Win games. Its that simple. I do not care what major James Morris has nor what Tanner Miller's GPA is, I do not give a rip. Who cares? Nor do I care if they give recruits bags of cash, I don't care. I don't care if they can read & write, don't care. I only care about wins and loses. So, I applaud Urban Meyer and hope he follows through and calls these wussies out for there inept attempt to recruit football players. If academia means so much, I suggest you go tailgate outside the Chemistry department on gameday instead of at Kinnick. But you won't, because academia doesn't matter, you just won't admit it.

First of all, you make me laugh by dictating to us what we care about. Secondly, what happened at PSU has nothing to do with academics so get off it. Thirdly, winning at all costs is just what gets you bit in the *** at the end. It is not how I, a 2 time graduate of Iowa, wish the footbal program to be. You can dictate your feelings to yourself but not my feelings to me. That is all.

Where did I say what happened at PSU had anything to do with academics? What i DID say was that because of what happened there & the B1G's weak sauce "penalties" the conference has lost any future argument involving morals & ethics. The B1G is a giant hypocrisy that the majority of the country simply dismisses as such.

I appreciate your opinion that you do not wish them to win at all costs. I really do. I just hope you realize and accept that Iowa and the entire B1G will likely become more and more irrelevant as time passes. I'd rather that not happen, but admit it is a near certainty that it will.

 

[LASBUR]

Trey, I know people all opver the USA, and while I agree the Big Ten took a big hit not just with PSU but also OSU. I dont get the feeling they dismiss us as being weak in ethics, Academics or in Sports in General. The SEC has the upper hand in Football but thats about it.

 

[treychase]

Trey, I know people all opver the USA, and while I agree the Big Ten took a big hit not just with PSU but also OSU. I dont get the feeling they dismiss us as being weak in ethics, Academics or in Sports in General. The SEC has the upper hand in Football but thats about it.

The only part of what you say that I agree with is the academics part. I believe most of the country still believes the B1G is superior academically but certainly not ethically or in quality of sports at all. This conference hasn't won diddly since 2002(and only did so because of a bogus flag) in either major sport and it supports a school (PSU) that harbored the worst mass child molester of all time. When the SEC grabs Duke & UNC, the academics part gets weaker as well, as it has been already. In fact, grabbing DUke & UNC & the research triangle $'s they bring, the SEC's value for research will exceed the B1G's. How's that for irony?

 

[LASBUR]

Ethics, is a opinion thing so I can see where you might not get that. But I dont see where the BT supported PSU in that deal. As far as sports the BT is great. Wrestling, Men and womens BB. I meen all around they do very well. If you only consider football. Then the SEC is dominate. But that is just not looking at the big picture. Do you think the SEC will get the triangle you talked about. I really dont. But thats justa opinion. I think the BT will try to add Georgia Tech. Atlanta would be a huge market and Delaney wants a footprint in the south.

The only part of what you say that I agree with is the academics part. I believe most of the country still believes the B1G is superior academically but certainly not ethically or in quality of sports at all. This conference hasn't won diddly since 2002(and only did so because of a bogus flag) in either major sport and it supports a school (PSU) that harbored the worst mass child molester of all time. When the SEC grabs Duke & UNC, the academics part gets weaker as well, as it has been already. In fact, grabbing DUke & UNC & the research triangle $'s they bring, the SEC's value for research will exceed the B1G's. How's that for irony?

 

[treychase]

Ethics, is a opinion thing so I can see where you might not get that. But I dont see where the BT supported PSU in that deal. As far as sports the BT is great. Wrestling, Men and womens BB. I meen all around they do very well. If you only consider football. Then the SEC is dominate. But that is just not looking at the big picture. Do you think the SEC will get the triangle you talked about. I really dont. But thats justa opinion. I think the BT will try to add Georgia Tech. Atlanta would be a huge market and Delaney wants a footprint in the south.

Penn St remains in the B1G, so yes, the conference supports them and has all through the disgusting events. A real leader, a real conference would have told them to hit the road.

I would hardly say the B1G does "very well" in other sports. Average if you go by Directors Cup numbers. Once again, folks that live in B1G country have a false belief of what their conference really is and how it is viewed. It is average at best in overall athletic achievement and awful in the two revenue generating sports of fball & mens bball. And spare me the "we're good in bball right now" comments because they won't win a title and their record vs ranked non con opponents is poor at best.

And yes, the SEC is going to get the triangle. 100% chance that happens. Georgia Tech delivering Atlanta is like saying I deliver Los Angeles. Neither is true and neither ever have a chance to be true. And folks have waaaay too high an opinion on Delany. He literally failed at every agenda item he had other than the BTN, which he gets waaaay to much credit for. The alumni numbers of the B1G made that whole thing a piece of cake. The guy added Rutgers for cripes sake. They had an athletic dept valued at $20 in 2010. $20! Not $20Million! $20. Or the equivalent of one lunch for two at Applebee's. LOL

 

[kmurp]

I wonder if what we are really lamenting is the relative decline of the former "Union" states compared to Confederate states in both economic and political power? That's what I thinbk about anyway; football is just a proxy.

 

[LASBUR]

I guess we dont agree on much. But thanks for the conversation. Also you said a real conference would have dumped PSU. Can you name that would have ?

 

[treychase]

I guess we dont agree on much. But thanks for the conversation. Also you said a real conference would have dumped PSU. Can you name that would have ?

I can't name one, that's kind of the point. That the B1G is no better than anyone else when it comes to its ethics/morality. They talk the talk but don't walk the walk, hence the hypocrisy.

 

[DTF]

Good, he's right. He wants teams to do a better job recruiting, which would hurt nobody, and people get upset.

 

[treychase]

I wonder if what we are really lamenting is the relative decline of the former "Union" states compared to Confederate states in both economic and political power? That's what I thinbk about anyway; football is just a proxy.

I think there is a LOT of truth in that statement.
Why people can't admit it is what is so baffling. Its like you have a medical condition and know what it is but don't "accept" it or go for treatment. That's basically what the B1G did for a couple of decades and what many of its fans are doing today, evidenced in this very message board thread. Treat it like a zit, ignore it and hope it goes away. That's been the B1G's strategy. LOL

 

[LASBUR]

IDK, Some of the southern states are poor and the election last Nov. didnt go their way

I wonder if what we are really lamenting is the relative decline of the former "Union" states compared to Confederate states in both economic and political power? That's what I thinbk about anyway; football is just a proxy.

 

[ajkhawkeye]

If you don't like the Big Ten then you can giiiiittt out!

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[dave3912]

Good, he's right. He wants teams to do a better job recruiting, which would hurt nobody, and people get upset.

He NEEDS them to do a better job recruiting, if the league declines any worse, it would be harder for him to recruit because the kind of talent he wants to bring in doesn't want to be in a crap league. Plus beating the crap out of a bunch of bad/mediocre teams will eventually kill their rankings.

Or it won't because it is OSU and he is Urban Meyer.

 

[treychase]

He NEEDS them to do a better job recruiting, if the league declines any worse, it would be harder for him to recruit because the kind of talent he wants to bring in doesn't want to be in a crap league. Plus beating the crap out of a bunch of bad/mediocre teams will eventually kill their rankings.

Or it won't because it is OSU and he is Urban Meyer.

It will kill their ranking and that is what this is all about for Urb. Years ago, a one loss OSU team could make a case for a spot in the NCG, now they have to go undefeated AND hope because the B1G is sooooo bad while the SEC is going to be assured 2 probably 3 of those 4 spots.

I've already seen comments from both OSU & Michigan folks that say if their SOS sucks because the B1G sucks, that they should look to leave. I would too.