Tuberville upset Indiana 'went out and bought them a football team'

OMG, Fry's head is going to explode when he reads what this dummy is saying.

Tommy T: "This isn't the way it used to be. We need to go back to that. And you kids stay off my lawn!"
 
The best part of the whole thing is that he (Congress) is really the only way this can get solved. Pass legislation to empower schools to take all the damn TV revenue and pay these players directly and with a salary cap. Take the collectives/dark money out of the paying players business and put the schools in charge of that. Do your job, Senator, don't just bitch.
 
NorthKCHawk said:
OMG, Fry's head is going to explode when he reads what this dummy is saying.

Tommy T: "This isn't the way it used to be. We need to go back to that. And you kids stay off my lawn!"
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Tuberville would've done the same thing if he was a coach today and none of us here are stupid enough to think he didn't have multiple bag men at Auburn.

I'm totally fine with contracts. The only issue is kids under 18. If anything, make a rule that players have to be 18 to play for money and then it takes away any grey area of legality. They already have to be 18 to use a welder, run a deli slicer, etc. Yeah, it'd change recruiting, but if the rule is the same for everyone then you adapt.
 
Senator "failed football" Tuberville is once again clueless. Indiana buying teams? The dude is from SEC country, and he knows better. I'm not sure if he's really dumb or just incapable of telling the truth. He's the worst.

NorthKC Hawk is right, we need to pay players directly, with a salary cap. Even the playing field a bit, and require some form of a contract so players don't play for four schools in four years. That's not good for their education at all.
 
Fryowa said:
Tuberville would've done the same thing if he was a coach today and none of us here are stupid enough to think he didn't have multiple bag men at Auburn.

I'm totally fine with contracts. The only issue is kids under 18. If anything, make a rule that players have to be 18 to play for money and then it takes away any grey area of legality. They already have to be 18 to use a welder, run a deli slicer, etc. Yeah, it'd change recruiting, but if the rule is the same for everyone then you adapt.
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Totally agree. These kids should get a nice chunk of the pie, and I also like that the real stars like Caitlyn Clark can get legitimate endorsement money. But, the dark money and collectives need to be removed from the game and the kids paid via contracts with the schools that have REASONABLE restrictions on transfers. There should be some freedom of movement, but not the lawless poaching and movement we have now.

Only Tommy and his buddies can get any of that done.
 
nice attention grabbing headline. we all know its pay for play now. so....

this jumped out at me...

Tuberville, elected to the United States Senate in 2021, has been involved in Name, Image and Likeness legislation for years, albeit to no discernible success thus far. He said Monday that he and Sen. Joe Manchin got legislation done but Sen. Chuck Schumer, the Democratic Senate majority leader, refused to bring it to the floor for a vote.

Politicians are always looking for leverage and advantage. You want something? you give me something. It bothered me but that's just how it goes in Washington
 
I would also eliminate the requirement to be a student. Most aren't today anyway, at least mot much. Collegiate athletics is the minor leagues of pro sports, treat as such, IMO.

Ket them take classes if they y so desire but leave it at that.
 
Fryowa said:
Tuberville would've done the same thing if he was a coach today and none of us here are stupid enough to think he didn't have multiple bag men at Auburn.

I'm totally fine with contracts. The only issue is kids under 18. If anything, make a rule that players have to be 18 to play for money and then it takes away any grey area of legality. They already have to be 18 to use a welder, run a deli slicer, etc. Yeah, it'd change recruiting, but if the rule is the same for everyone then you adapt.
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Plenty of Olympic athletes and other pro sports I think have athletes cashing checks while being under 18. Most college athletes are going to be 18+ so there's not a ton of kids that'd apply to.

As far a Tuberville goes he's just a grandstanding politician now. Trying to sound bombastic so he stands out and regardless of him being hypocritical on any of his takes he's gonna do so. A yr or so ago the guy somehow had the power to withhold military promotions by himself. And he did it to try and get policy in the pentagon changed in regards to abortion. I think it was in regards to military folks getting reimbursed for travel expenses. And after that time he finally gave up and got nothing to show for it policy is still the same. Just wasted a yr of like 400 peoples time that should've all been promoted.

Nobody should take his 2 cents on damn near anything seriously. Especially when there's no doubt he did for yrs illegally as a coach that he's mad about IU doing that's now legal. Regardless of the fact that Colorado is the team much more resembling what he's crying about. Indiana has a lot of starters that were 2-3 star guys that damn near any of the blue bloods coulda got. They just didn't want them
 
Zstatman said:
I would also eliminate the requirement to be a student. Most aren't today anyway, at least mot much. Collegiate athletics is the minor leagues of pro sports, treat as such, IMO.

Ket them take classes if they y so desire but leave it at that.
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Disagree 100%. This is when I stop watching. If I wanted to watch second rate professional football made up of 23 year olds not good enough for the NFL, I will watch the XFL. College football is played by students at the school. Pay them what they are worth. That is fine. But, if they are not going to class its not college football anymore. Plus 95% of these kids won't end up being Pros. Get them a degree they can use for whatever they are doing next.
 
Hawkfnntn said:
Plenty of Olympic athletes and other pro sports I think have athletes cashing checks while being under 18. Most college athletes are going to be 18+ so there's not a ton of kids that'd apply to.

As far a Tuberville goes he's just a grandstanding politician now. Trying to sound bombastic so he stands out and regardless of him being hypocritical on any of his takes he's gonna do so. A yr or so ago the guy somehow had the power to withhold military promotions by himself. And he did it to try and get policy in the pentagon changed in regards to abortion. I think it was in regards to military folks getting reimbursed for travel expenses. And after that time he finally gave up and got nothing to show for it policy is still the same. Just wasted a yr of like 400 peoples time that should've all been promoted.

Nobody should take his 2 cents on damn near anything seriously. Especially when there's no doubt he did for yrs illegally as a coach that he's mad about IU doing that's now legal. Regardless of the fact that Colorado is the team much more resembling what he's crying about. Indiana has a lot of starters that were 2-3 star guys that damn near any of the blue bloods coulda got. They just didn't want them
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The thing is free transferring is bad for the sport. I'm fine with payments in whatever form they take, but giving a kid a million bucks in NIL money just to have him bolt to the next highest bidder at the drop of a hat should be quashed. You do that with signed contracts, and if you have 17 year-olds doing it it's going to open up a can of worms with all the legal stuff. Letting parents sign the contracts isn't going to help it. Don't let them sign or play until they're 18.
 
Fryowa said:
The thing is free transferring is bad for the sport. I'm fine with payments in whatever form they take, but giving a kid a million bucks in NIL money just to have him bolt to the next highest bidder at the drop of a hat should be quashed. You do that with signed contracts, and if you have 17 year-olds doing it it's going to open up a can of worms with all the legal stuff. Letting parents sign the contracts isn't going to help it. Don't let them sign or play until they're 18.
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I get that line of thinking I just don't see how that part is really gonna change. Coaches can come and go on a whim. It's everyones right to do so in the real world and that world isn't any less real it's just different. Hell alot of the non compete contracts people sign are getting challenged nowadays. This is a rabbits got the gun situation and good luck getting it away from them.
 
Hawkfnntn said:
I get that line of thinking I just don't see how that part is really gonna change. Coaches can come and go on a whim. It's everyones right to do so in the real world and that world isn't any less real it's just different. Hell alot of the non compete contracts people sign are getting challenged nowadays. This is a rabbits got the gun situation and good luck getting it away from them.
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Congress has the authority to make such contracts absolutely enforceable. If Big Tommy and his cronies are going to do something about it, legislation allowing for regulation of transfers is absolutely something that they could include.

My view is that you go back to the old rule of sitting out a year if you transfer. You don't lose any eligibility. That rule can be waived if there is a coaching change. Kids should have a right to change schools if they don't like the school or opportunities or whatever, but if they have to sit a year it will make sure they are not being poached for dark cash and it allows them to focus on academics during the transition year. It actually was a sensible approach to this issue.
 
The starting QB(Rourke) they got from a MAC school. 9 transfers from James Madison followed Cignetti to Indiana, so I really don’t think the Indiana payroll is that deep. Hard to imagine that Indiana would pay a shit ton of money for a 63 year old Cignetti and a bunch of James Madison transfers.
 
trj said:
The starting QB(Rourke) they got from a MAC school. 9 transfers from James Madison followed Cignetti to Indiana, so I really don’t think the Indiana payroll is that deep. Hard to imagine that Indiana would pay a shit ton of money for a 63 year old Cignetti and a bunch of James Madison transfers.
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This is stunning. I read about it a while ago. James Madison. Good grief!
 
trj said:
The starting QB(Rourke) they got from a MAC school. 9 transfers from James Madison followed Cignetti to Indiana, so I really don’t think the Indiana payroll is that deep. Hard to imagine that Indiana would pay a shit ton of money for a 63 year old Cignetti and a bunch of James Madison transfers.
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Thats the great part about Indiana. They created a 10-0 team off the clearance rack at TJ Maxx.
They may have paid less for a whole team than Texas or Alabama pay for one backup QB.
It would be interesting to see a breakdown of NIL $/wins at the FBS schools.
 
Tuberville is a moron. James Madison? Bought a team? By this logic, any crappy Power 5 school could hire the winner of the MAC's coach, bring all of his players, and poof, playoffs for Purdue!! It doesn't work that way, and what Cig has done there is nothing short of a miracle.

If Indiana just stays on the field with OSU and keeps it close through the 4th, Indiana should make the playoffs. Sure, they won't have a signature win, but they would have a Top 2 loss and blown away the remainder of their schedule. If they somehow win, they should be ranked 2nd behind Oregon. If they win by double digits they should be #1.

Go Hoosiers!
 
SCHawkeye2 said:
Thats the great part about Indiana. They created a 10-0 team off the clearance rack at TJ Maxx.
They may have paid less for a whole team than Texas or Alabama pay for one backup QB.
It would be interesting to see a breakdown of NIL $/wins at the FBS schools.
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No doubt about it in Texas case... Manning didn't go there for free... Far from it. Many programs don't spend as much in NIL as they did just on him including Iowa I bet. Let alone Indiana.
 
The current rules stink. You can play college football but getting a degree should be a high priority. This needs to be fixed.
 
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