Here is the link to the tweet gibsonian just stole as his own.
Trump supporters, how do you square this?
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Here is the link to the tweet gibsonian just stole as his own.
Democrats in the past calling for what doge is doing right now. Unfortunately the wrong team is doing what they said needs to be done.
Facts are facts
kicker22
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That's one hell of a stat line. If it doesn't put him in contention for GOAT, it's definitely worthy of a lifetime achievement award and Hall of Shame induction.
Westernhawk
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Income tax reduction for the top two brackets (but not the rest) = big break for the very wealthy
Tariffs making goods more expensive = regressive tax, extra burden, for the middle class and poor.
More for them, less for us. Why did some of you vote for this? Look at Trump and who surrounds him. Billionaires.
Suckas.
Tariffs making goods more expensive = regressive tax, extra burden, for the middle class and poor.
More for them, less for us. Why did some of you vote for this? Look at Trump and who surrounds him. Billionaires.
Suckas.
kicker22
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What are you talking about lol based on stat line Gibsonian threw up who wouldn't want to see what another 4 years could do to those numbers.
Trump's first presidency was decent until covid. Good enough to vote for over whoever is running the democratic party right now, but not good enough to get excited over.
Westernhawk
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The candidates policies have been outlined previously. I hope that King Donnie would reconsider the tax breaks for the very wealthy and increases for everyone else, but I wouldn't bet on it.
Source: https://itep.org/kamala-harris-donald-trump-tax-plans/
Source: https://itep.org/kamala-harris-donald-trump-tax-plans/
kicker22
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Sorry but that's saying very little. Biden doesn't know who he is half the time and Harris was thrown into a campaign 3 months before the election with zero chance to win. They (all three) were all turds and regardless which one came out the end result is still a turd, albeit the orange one.
Westernhawk
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This particular turd seems to either not understand, or is willing to openly disregard our Constitution. Congress does appropriations, and the Judicial system (Judge's orders) should not be ignored. I hope this jackass doesn't continue down the authoritarian road, but I'm afraid he will.
Don't even get me started on him selling Teslas at the White House. What the actual F.
Don't even get me started on him selling Teslas at the White House. What the actual F.
You mention Biden and Harris but I was talking about whoever is running the democratic party. It sure wasn't either of them.
I don’t know what the right answer is, but always being able to find one random judge out of thousands to stop the president of the United States is a pretty dumb thing. It just can't be THAT easy to stop an elected president from doing things. There does need to be a way to stop him. But it's gotta be at least slightly harder than finding one random judge to do it. That basically says that every single judge in the country has more power than the president. That's just stupid.
Westernhawk
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Do you think Trump needs to follow the Constitution, the existing laws, and judicial orders?
If any president can ignore the judiciary, we no longer have three co-equal branches, right?
Also, conservative Chief Justice Roberts may disagree with you, PC:
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Why would I care if some random judge disagrees with me. I think it's incredibly stupid that we have a shit ton of judges in this country and all it takes is one to decide he's more powerful than the president. Again, I don't know what the right answer is and I think there definitely needs to be ways to keep a president in check. But all it takes is one judge to decide he doesn't like what the president is doing and he has the power to stop him. That's for sure not the answer and it's being abused bad lately.
kicker22
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Valid point, but the same could be asked whether Trump is running the government right now or whether Musk is calling the shot. That's the joy of politics.
There's no doubt that all presidents have had people in their ear trying to do their bidding. That's nothing new. What was new is installing a president that wasn't even coherent anymore. That was Biden. He clearly had nothing to do with any government decisions for four years. (It's even more crazy now that the auto pen story has come out). You can make an argument that Harris doesn't fall into that category, and I wouldn't die on the hill that she does. But we know that SOMEONE was running the white house for four years. From there it's easy to assume those people would want to install someone that would allow them to continue to run things the way they were. The way they tried to sneak Harris in last minute without going through the process makes me assume she was their choice to accomplish that.
kicker22
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Whether we agree or disagree (probably disagree) do you really think "all it takes is one judge to decide he doesn't like what the president is doing". Whether a Judge "likes what the president is doing" has nothing to do with it. The issue isn't like/dislike but rather whether the constitution is being upheld and whether the President is over stepping boundaries as President and doing things outside of the scope of his powers. I'd also venture to say that he's not the only one, but rather the only one brave enough to put himself out there and contest it.
It's really a matter of perspective and where you find yourself lining up politically. While you see it an abuse of power by a Judge and an issue that is "being abused bad lately" some of us on the other side feel that Trump has completely crossed the line and has been abusing his powers since returning to office.
kicker22
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I'd disagree with you. I think Biden was running the county when he first took office but his age caught up with him and someone took the reigns as his cognitive abilities started to decline. I honestly think we're in for the same treat as I think Trumps already showing signs of decline and has three more years to go. It's what we get for electing older presidents.
Why Biden was pushed out of the race when he was I have no idea, but I keep hearing about trying to sneak Harris in at the last minute being this grand idea for whoever was pulling the strings in the democratic party. Whether conspiracy theory or not, what is the logic in it? IF they really wanted to do stir things why would they have pulled their card and inserted Harris into the equation with 3 months left. Let's be honest who's going to put together a campaign in three months? I think, and it's just me, that Biden honestly was deemed unfit to run again at the time he dropped out, because I think only a fool could think that making the switch 3 months before election day had any upside.
Westernhawk
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Judges aren't "Trump" or "Obama" judges. They're judges.
America is looking more and more like a one party totalitarian state, and should be viewed as such:
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America is looking more and more like a one party totalitarian state, and should be viewed as such:
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