Trump supporters, how do you square this?

kicker22 said:
I'd disagree with you. I think Biden was running the county when he first took office but his age caught up with him and someone took the reigns as his cognitive abilities started to decline. I honestly think we're in for the same treat as I think Trumps already showing signs of decline and has three more years to go. It's what we get for electing older presidents.

Why Biden was pushed out of the race when he was I have no idea, but I keep hearing about trying to sneak Harris in at the last minute being this grand idea for whoever was pulling the strings in the democratic party. Whether conspiracy theory or not, what is the logic in it? IF they really wanted to do stir things why would they have pulled their card and inserted Harris into the equation with 3 months left. Let's be honest who's going to put together a campaign in three months? I think, and it's just me, that Biden honestly was deemed unfit to run again at the time he dropped out, because I think only a fool could think that making the switch 3 months before election day had any upside.
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Not enough time to mount a decent campaign and I don't believe middle America was
ready for Kamela who already had two strikes against her starting out

The majority of America wasn't ready for a Woke Assault and wanted to hear about economics
and anything else

Eggs and all that, everyone fell for that one

Actually, if tRUMP is still alive in 4 years, I believe he would be elected again when/if Constitution is Dead
 
kicker22 said:
Whether we agree or disagree (probably disagree) do you really think "all it takes is one judge to decide he doesn't like what the president is doing". Whether a Judge "likes what the president is doing" has nothing to do with it. The issue isn't like/dislike but rather whether the constitution is being upheld and whether the President is over stepping boundaries as President and doing things outside of the scope of his powers. I'd also venture to say that he's not the only one, but rather the only one brave enough to put himself out there and contest it.

It's really a matter of perspective and where you find yourself lining up politically. While you see it an abuse of power by a Judge and an issue that is "being abused bad lately" some of us on the other side feel that Trump has completely crossed the line and has been abusing his powers since returning to office.
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I completely get the perspective argument. I remember when a judge in Florida finally opposed something Biden did. Something with the vaccine or student loans maybe? I can't remember what it was but I remember having a different perspective than I do now. What's bothering me now more than anything is someone is fighting him every step of the way. This latest judge tried to turn around a plane carrying gang members out of the country.

But I'll say this one more time to be clear. There needs to be ways to keep power of a President in check. I just don't think this is the way. And as far as the constitution goes. Any good judge or lawyer can find a way to argue any point any time. So one judge saying something is unconstitutional doesn't necessarily mean it is. Yet they have the power to at least delay any more a president does. Find enough judges to take up your cause and you can delay away an entire four year term. I know if I got voted to be president and then starting doing the things that people voted me in to do, and then a judge tried to stop my every move, my exact words would be "who the F do you think you are?"
 
PCHawk said:
I completely get the perspective argument. I remember when a judge in Florida finally opposed something Biden did. Something with the vaccine or student loans maybe? I can't remember what it was but I remember having a different perspective than I do now. What's bothering me now more than anything is someone is fighting him every step of the way. This latest judge tried to turn around a plane carrying gang members out of the country.

But I'll say this one more time to be clear. There needs to be ways to keep power of a President in check. I just don't think this is the way. And as far as the constitution goes. Any good judge or lawyer can find a way to argue any point any time. So one judge saying something is unconstitutional doesn't necessarily mean it is. Yet they have the power to at least delay any more a president does. Find enough judges to take up your cause and you can delay away an entire four year term. I know if I got voted to be president and then starting doing the things that people voted me in to do, and then a judge tried to stop my every move, my exact words would be "who the F do you think you are?"
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In my opinion I think the bigger picture is why does it get that to that point. Honestly I think the bigger issue is legislation is either too in love, too full of hate, or simply too chickenshit to do the job they were elected to do. Right now they're too locked in to their own parties and fighting the opposite party to do anything. At least the judicial and executive branch are doing their jobs, regardless of what we think of their performance.
 
kicker22 said:
I'd disagree with you. I think Biden was running the county when he first took office but his age caught up with him and someone took the reigns as his cognitive abilities started to decline. I honestly think we're in for the same treat as I think Trumps already showing signs of decline and has three more years to go. It's what we get for electing older presidents.

Why Biden was pushed out of the race when he was I have no idea, but I keep hearing about trying to sneak Harris in at the last minute being this grand idea for whoever was pulling the strings in the democratic party. Whether conspiracy theory or not, what is the logic in it? IF they really wanted to do stir things why would they have pulled their card and inserted Harris into the equation with 3 months left. Let's be honest who's going to put together a campaign in three months? I think, and it's just me, that Biden honestly was deemed unfit to run again at the time he dropped out, because I think only a fool could think that making the switch 3 months before election day had any upside.
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I think it was Vivak Romaswamy who preemptively called out the timeliness perfect for how they were going to pull the plug on Biden. I'm talking months in advance. Them the timeliness played out perfectly how he said it would.

Everything from the timing of the debate (to show the world how declined he had "recently" become) to the reasons why that timing was necessary to make it work. Because let's be honest here. There was no campaign strategy that was going to work with Harris. Their best bet was to give her the shortest amount of time possible to screw it up.

Step one was to wait until it was too late to have a primary. Step two was to set Biden up for a debate they knew he would fail miserably at. Step three was to force him to resign with a letter on social media (what in the actual hell was that by the way). Step four was to force Harris through and have the media talk her up. This step needed to be as late in the process as possible so they could take advantage of the honeymoon phase. Step five was to run a really short campaign with the message that you're not old and you're not Trump.

The whole thing seems so obvious to me. But I guess it's easier to see it when you see someone lay it out for yiu before it happens and then points out every step in the process you called out as it happens live.
 
kicker22 said:
In my opinion I think the bigger picture is why does it get that to that point. Honestly I think the bigger issue is legislation is either too in love, too full of hate, or simply too chickenshit to do the job they were elected to do. Right now they're too locked in to their own parties and fighting the opposite party to do anything. At least the judicial and executive branch are doing their jobs, regardless of what we think of their performance.
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The democrats are definitely too in love with their own party. They almost always can be counted on to vote together. Republicans definitely are mote open to voting the other way. Although they do vote their party lines more than they should too.
 
Trump’s life is all about lawlessness and he brings this to the presidency. Some on this thread think the President is above the laws of this land. This is not the case and if allowed to run a lawless administration our democracy is finished. It’s not a judge doing his job it’s laws. That his supporters are now pushing for Trump disobeying the laws of the land is telling on the trash news they are taking in snd the gullibility that they possess to push for lawlessness in our government. Russia China has this already and I recommend you go there instead of attempting to bring this garbage to America
 
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