Trump supporters, how do you square this?

What was the "or else" part of the demands? Maybe that's why Trump voted against it. I haven't seen anything about it yet so have no idea. But it makes sense if the terms were something crazy, it would be smart to vote against it. For an extreme example, it they are saying withdrawal from Ukraine or we will launch nukes, it would be smart to vote against it. For a less extreme example. Withdrawal or we will declare all out war and send troops, I would hope we vote against that. For an extreme example the other way. If they said "please withdraw right away, pretty please with sugar on top. If not, no biggie" then Trump might as well have signed that. Do you know the stipulations for it? Or are you just outraged no matter what? That's a serious question because like I said, I haven't even seen anything yet.
I always like to look at who benefits from various decisions.

For example:
Who benefits by having the US and RUSSIA at the table together without Ukraine? Answer: RUSSIA
Who benefits from the US distancing it self from NATO? Answer: RUSSIA
Who benefits from the US working closely with Russia to end the war now, and give Ukrainian land to Russia, and end the death of Russian soldiers (now over 800,000 mediocre Russian soldiers are dead) Answer: RUSSIA
Who benefits from Trump falsifying Zalensky's approval rating, and by Trump calling Zalensky a dictator: You know the answer, RUSSIA probably wrote these talking points.

Western Europe and Ukraine definitely do not benefit from any of these things.

One more: Who benefits from the US raiding Ukraine's rare earth metals? I'll let you figure that one out yourself. Hint: someone who needs these elements for batteries and computing. Maybe the US at large, but a few in the "inner party" will benefit greatly, I think.

It's hard to remember which country has the oligarchy anymore.


The only good fascist is a dead one. Their country of residence doesn't matter.
 
"Woke" agenda is such a bullshit cop-out for knowing that Russia is absolutely a dictatorship and our enemy.

woke​

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woker; wokest
Synonyms of woke
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: aware of and actively attentive to important societal facts and issues (especially issues of racial and social justice)

Yeah, that woke agenda is terrible....
I am reminded of this quote in our f'd up and upside down current political situation:

“The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command.​

-Orwell

Musk's antics are normal
Those aren't hitler salutes by Bannon or Musk
Musk and some 20 year olds should plug into our federal government's system and F them up
Health research is bad and corrupt
Russia is good. Zalensky is a dictator
Western Europeans are the bad guys. Russia is cool.
Firing Park Rangers will make a difference and is a good idea
Government spending is bad
Our own government, particularly democrats, are the true evil
Giving tax breaks to billionaires will help us all
Woke is the real problem in this country


It's fucking propaganda, people.
 
I am reminded of this quote in our f'd up and upside down current political situation:

“The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command.​

-Orwell

Musk's antics are normal
Those aren't hitler salutes by Bannon or Musk
Musk and some 20 year olds should plug into our federal government's system and F them up
Health research is bad and corrupt
Russia is good. Zalensky is a dictator
Western Europeans are the bad guys. Russia is cool.
Firing Park Rangers will make a difference and is a good idea
Government spending is bad
Our own government, particularly democrats, are the true evil
Giving tax breaks to billionaires will help us all
Woke is the real problem in this country


It's fucking propaganda, people.
Have you seen the pictures of all the democrats doing nazi salutes?
 
You really think the math checks out on that one? If your answer is yes, I'm not sure if you can comprehend the difference between billion and trillion.
Does someone need to hold your hand when you try to read what people post on here? Go ahead and read it again and tell me how cutting Medicare and social security is the cause of our country’s deficit
 
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Haha, is that what happened? That was clearly a calculated decision on timing by democrats to push him out of office.
I thought all Republicans wanted him out of office. Did the Republicans even have primaries or did they just put tRump in that spot?

Anyone that says anything bad about your idols sure seems to touch a nerve with you, so hopefully that doesn’t happen here again, snowflake.
 
I will never understand why the Democratic Party could not put forward a candidate to win the election against the worst Republican in history.

Biden should have removed himself from running again

The Democrats did not have enough time to have a proper Presidential Nominating Process

The Party was also outspent on advancing the agenda, such as overwhelming TV ads

Probably one of the main reasons was the lack of education of the average American

Public schools are failing drastically
 
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Does someone need to hold your hand when you try to read what people post on here? Go ahead and read it again and tell me how cutting Medicare and social security is the cause of our country’s deficit
I didn't say it was. I was responding to your meme that said the cause was not taxing billionaires enough. If you believe that, you can't comprehend the difference between billions and trillions. The government could confiscate ever dollar from every billionaire in the country and barely put a dent in the debt.
 
I thought all Republicans wanted him out of office. Did the Republicans even have primaries or did they just put tRump in that spot?

Anyone that says anything bad about your idols sure seems to touch a nerve with you, so hopefully that doesn’t happen here again, snowflake.
Seems like I've been giving calm counterpoints. Not sure why you're name-calling.
 
Is it pictures or videos? Pictures are different from videos, you do know that, right? See, videos tell the whole story, unlike pictures, which are still shots. Do you understand that?
Videos can be cut to tell a different story just as easily as a picture can. See Musk leaving his son on stage as the latest example of that. For a slightly older example, see the video of Musk throwing his heart to the crowd.
 
Starting talks with Russia, but not Ukraine and in those talks Russia gets everything and Ukraine doesn't get anything??? I forget, who invaded who exactly?

The Biden withdrawal was what tRump signed as an agreement with the Taliban...go ahead and look it up, then get back to us.

Do you realize that Biden deported 20,000 more illegals per month than what tRump is doing and the pandemic was handled like complete shit under your boy. Diseases are running rampant once again because of vaccine deniers like the orange turd and his heroin addict RFK Jr.
That is starting talks with the instigator which is what you do. You don't approach the victim side first. Initial talking and seeing where they are you are turning it into, just like the media, into that is the deal. There is no deal they haven't even gotten them both together for talks. There is no a done deal with Russia only and nobody has gotten anything yet.

The Trump agreement was fine. The withdrawal was horrible. Trump wanted to keep troops in, the generals did as well but the Biden admin pulled everybody out in the wrong way like it was a race to get it done fast instead of right. Don't equate it cause Trump and the military were not doing the withdrawal the way Biden did it. It was not doomed no matter what. We know what went wrong and there is blame to assign there and it can't be pushed over to Trump. Like a football coach blaming another coach for his team's execution. Clear BS.

Dude ICE right now is seeking out and deporting criminal illegals so don't compare with just the whole ball of wax. Even if the Biden #'s are accurate it is not apples to apples. Comparing a whole set to a subsection.

Disease has emerged again because of it coming with the surge of immigration. Guess what the admin is one month old. Don't pretend this just happened. You don't even get decent epidemiological data for a while so guess when a surge in disease happened. Yeah it is Trumps fault though. Everything is Trumps fault even when he is not President. TDS is strong here isn't it.

Biden came in and did a worse job with the pandemic and had the advantage of a vaccine and months of knowledge so why was he so bad? And if you have Fauci and the bad CDC/WHO info they both followed why blame them anyway. So much was state stuff. Trump didn't put people in nursing homes. Cuomo did. Murphy did. Whitmer did etc. You need to live in the real world not the media world cause taking stuff other people did or pushed on us and just blaming Trump for it gets us nowhere.
 
That is starting talks with the instigator which is what you do. You don't approach the victim side first. Initial talking and seeing where they are you are turning it into, just like the media, into that is the deal. There is no deal they haven't even gotten them both together for talks. There is no a done deal with Russia only and nobody has gotten anything yet.

The Trump agreement was fine. The withdrawal was horrible. Trump wanted to keep troops in, the generals did as well but the Biden admin pulled everybody out in the wrong way like it was a race to get it done fast instead of right. Don't equate it cause Trump and the military were not doing the withdrawal the way Biden did it. It was not doomed no matter what. We know what went wrong and there is blame to assign there and it can't be pushed over to Trump. Like a football coach blaming another coach for his team's execution. Clear BS.

Dude ICE right now is seeking out and deporting criminal illegals so don't compare with just the whole ball of wax. Even if the Biden #'s are accurate it is not apples to apples. Comparing a whole set to a subsection.

Disease has emerged again because of it coming with the surge of immigration. Guess what the admin is one month old. Don't pretend this just happened. You don't even get decent epidemiological data for a while so guess when a surge in disease happened. Yeah it is Trumps fault though. Everything is Trumps fault even when he is not President. TDS is strong here isn't it.

Biden came in and did a worse job with the pandemic and had the advantage of a vaccine and months of knowledge so why was he so bad? And if you have Fauci and the bad CDC/WHO info they both followed why blame them anyway. So much was state stuff. Trump didn't put people in nursing homes. Cuomo did. Murphy did. Whitmer did etc. You need to live in the real world not the media world cause taking stuff other people did or pushed on us and just blaming Trump for it gets us nowhere.
Blaming Trump for covid doesn't make any sense at all. Anyone with any intelligence at all knows covid was always going to live with us forever just like three cold and flu. There was no way to "stop this in the beginning with the right message". It was always going to spread. It was always eventually going to kill the weakest. It was always going to weaken to the point where it was just another way to die that overall isn't really a big deal. Might as well blame Trump for flu deaths too if you think covid deaths are on him.
 
So basically, if the stock market is good during the Biden administration, it's because of tRump. If unemployment is low during Biden, it's because of tRump.

If the covid handling was bad during tRump, it's because of Biden. The pact that tRump signed with the Taliban was great, but the way Biden followed those rules is bad.

No one said tRump caused covid because that's stupid, but how he handled it was terrible, just like what you're saying about the pull-out of Afghanistan.

I also love the idea of blaming any disease on immigration. You sound just like the orange turd in demonizing immigrants and that's pretty racist to do.

I know you need to be just like your dear leader and blame everyone else for every problem and never take responsibility for anything. The only thing I've ever heard him apologize for is all of the bad hires he made during his first term when those people realized they worked for a racist imbecile.

Gotta love that cult smell in the morning
 
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