Trump supporters, how do you square this?

What was the "or else" part of the demands? Maybe that's why Trump voted against it. I haven't seen anything about it yet so have no idea. But it makes sense if the terms were something crazy, it would be smart to vote against it. For an extreme example, it they are saying withdrawal from Ukraine or we will launch nukes, it would be smart to vote against it. For a less extreme example. Withdrawal or we will declare all out war and send troops, I would hope we vote against that. For an extreme example the other way. If they said "please withdraw right away, pretty please with sugar on top. If not, no biggie" then Trump might as well have signed that. Do you know the stipulations for it? Or are you just outraged no matter what? That's a serious question because like I said, I haven't even seen anything yet.
I always like to look at who benefits from various decisions.

For example:
Who benefits by having the US and RUSSIA at the table together without Ukraine? Answer: RUSSIA
Who benefits from the US distancing it self from NATO? Answer: RUSSIA
Who benefits from the US working closely with Russia to end the war now, and give Ukrainian land to Russia, and end the death of Russian soldiers (now over 800,000 mediocre Russian soldiers are dead) Answer: RUSSIA
Who benefits from Trump falsifying Zalensky's approval rating, and by Trump calling Zalensky a dictator: You know the answer, RUSSIA probably wrote these talking points.

Western Europe and Ukraine definitely do not benefit from any of these things.

One more: Who benefits from the US raiding Ukraine's rare earth metals? I'll let you figure that one out yourself. Hint: someone who needs these elements for batteries and computing. Maybe the US at large, but a few in the "inner party" will benefit greatly, I think.

It's hard to remember which country has the oligarchy anymore.


The only good fascist is a dead one. Their country of residence doesn't matter.
 
"Woke" agenda is such a bullshit cop-out for knowing that Russia is absolutely a dictatorship and our enemy.

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woker; wokest
Synonyms of woke
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: aware of and actively attentive to important societal facts and issues (especially issues of racial and social justice)

Yeah, that woke agenda is terrible....
I am reminded of this quote in our f'd up and upside down current political situation:

“The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command.​

-Orwell

Musk's antics are normal
Those aren't hitler salutes by Bannon or Musk
Musk and some 20 year olds should plug into our federal government's system and F them up
Health research is bad and corrupt
Russia is good. Zalensky is a dictator
Western Europeans are the bad guys. Russia is cool.
Firing Park Rangers will make a difference and is a good idea
Government spending is bad
Our own government, particularly democrats, are the true evil
Giving tax breaks to billionaires will help us all
Woke is the real problem in this country


It's fucking propaganda, people.
 
I will never understand why the Democratic Party could not put forward a candidate to win the election against the worst Republican in history.
Biden screwed the Democrats big time by not stepping away sooner and to allow a proper way of selecting a better candidate.
 
I am reminded of this quote in our f'd up and upside down current political situation:

“The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command.​

-Orwell

Musk's antics are normal
Those aren't hitler salutes by Bannon or Musk
Musk and some 20 year olds should plug into our federal government's system and F them up
Health research is bad and corrupt
Russia is good. Zalensky is a dictator
Western Europeans are the bad guys. Russia is cool.
Firing Park Rangers will make a difference and is a good idea
Government spending is bad
Our own government, particularly democrats, are the true evil
Giving tax breaks to billionaires will help us all
Woke is the real problem in this country


It's fucking propaganda, people.
Have you seen the pictures of all the democrats doing nazi salutes?
 

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