Trump supporters, how do you square this?

[Glass1/2fullguy]

Can you bring a vehicle into church or schools or theaters or Walmarts or etc, etc, etc???? Stricter gun laws, needing a license to have guns (you know, like vehicles), no more gun sale meets where anyone can get one.... I'm not going to go round and round with a moron thank thinks guns aren't an issue.

I'm ok w/ and believe we need to make it more difficult to obtain a gun. I thought it was way too easy when i purchased a handgun a few months back. That said "IT'S THE GUNS" mindset is extremely shallow. The sickness of these people is the real issue. I don't comment on much for the same reason you mention.

 

[Westernhawk]

Can you bring a vehicle into church or schools or theaters or Walmarts or etc, etc, etc???? Stricter gun laws, needing a license to have guns (you know, like vehicles), no more gun sale meets where anyone can get one.... I'm not going to go round and round with a moron thank thinks guns aren't an issue.

It's a pointless discussion. It's an obvious strawman argument.

 

[Westernhawk]

What happens with the tech bros go after Medicaid? There's a big risk (graph courtesy of Chartis.com).

 

[Hay Man]

I can't wait to hear the spin on how that's a good thing for America

I suppose that since millions will be losing health insurance, everyone will stop going to the hospital and just die at home. So no need to have all those extra hospitals just sitting there.

 

[Westernhawk]

I can't wait to hear the spin on how that's a good thing for America

I suppose that since millions will be losing health insurance, everyone will stop going to the hospital and just die at home. So no need to have all those extra hospitals just sitting there.

The deep south (Florida in particular) is losing OB services at a really rapid clip. That's a problem. Losing any hospitals in a rural area is also a massive problem.

I know a lot of people want to play the "my team vs your team" identity politics game, but when this problem becomes worse, and it may take a bit of time, I'm sure there will be a lot of misplaced blame.

So, as they go after Medicaid and maybe Medicare, watch this space. Don't even get me going on the travesty related to medical research now. That is also horrible. Below, from 2025 rural health state of the state, Chartis:

 

[Hay Man]

It's very hard to fathom how cutting all these necessary programs and their funding is a good thing for Americans. Where has the empathy gone for the poor, sick, elderly, etc....??

 

[Westernhawk]

It's very hard to fathom how cutting all these necessary programs and their funding is a good thing for Americans. Where has the empathy gone for the poor, sick, elderly, etc....??

Just my opinion here, but billionaires don't care about the poor and the sick for the most part. They care about having more money and power. Putting the ultra wealthy in charge of safety net programs is rather stupid.

I'm flabbergasted that Billy Joe Jim Bob who wears a MAGA hat would be excited about what Elon is doing.

 

[CP87]

This is a really good podcast episode (from Ezra Klein) that contains a discussion with Yuval Levin. He describes himself as a constitutional conservative who agrees with many of Trump's policy ideas, but he has grave concerns with how Trump conducts himself, and especially the 2nd Trump Administrations efforts to undo the constitutional order. He was a member of GWB's administration, and he works for the conservative American Enterprise Institute. Levin speaks of how our government is designed to work, discusses why it currently isn't working (broken legislative branch, rampant anti-coalitionalism), and explains why what Trump is attempting will not work and is dangerous strategy. Enjoy:

Opinion | The Breaking of the Constitutional Order

The political analyst Yuval Levin discusses Trump’s first few weeks in office and the limits of presidential power.

www.nytimes.com

 

[CP87]

Check out the resignation letter submitted by a judge (edit: prosecutor, not judge) who is a Trump nominee (3 weeks ago!) and former Antonin Scalia clerk over the Trump DOJ tomfoolery:

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Here is another beaut from one of the other prosecutors on the Adams case:

 

[Gibsonian]

Check out the resignation letter submitted by a judge who is a Trump nominee (3 weeks ago!) and former Antonin Scalia clerk over the Trump DOJ tomfoolery:

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Here is another beaut from one of the other prosecutors on the Adams case:
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Trump is attempting to strip this country of all regulations for corruption, the environment, and protections for the poorest of Americans whilst preparing to make the rich richer. Putin will get what he wants, NATO will be at a crossroads with America now attacking allies instead of enemies. Allies disgusted and appalled by Hegeseth/Vance attacks. Thank goodness decent people still exist in this world. Thank you Haggan

 

[thedukeofearl]

“While Musk might get away with a [Nazi-like] salute in some parts of the world, European markets reject such behavior,” Kraaijvanger tells WIRED. “World War Two still casts a long shadow." He may be right. Tesla sales are in free fall in Europe right now. Last month, Norway—where EVs overtook internal combustion vehicles in total market share in 2024—recorded a biting 37.9 percent slump. At the same time, Tesla sales in France fell by a thumping 63.4 percent. And it gets even worse: In Spain, Tesla sales plummeted by 75.4 percent.

 

[Gibsonian]

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“While Musk might get away with a [Nazi-like] salute in some parts of the world, European markets reject such behavior,” Kraaijvanger tells WIRED. “World War Two still casts a long shadow." He may be right. Tesla sales are in free fall in Europe right now. Last month, Norway—where EVs overtook internal combustion vehicles in total market share in 2024—recorded a biting 37.9 percent slump. At the same time, Tesla sales in France fell by a thumping 63.4 percent. And it gets even worse: In Spain, Tesla sales plummeted by 75.4 percent.

I wouldn’t buy the Feurer in the the White House’s wares either.

 

[HawkIowa44]

Are all the tRump lovers on here finally figuring out that Musk and tRump aren’t looking out for their best interest and lied about almost everything? They’re gutting everything that helps Americans, censoring the media unless they do and say what tRump wants to hear and siding with the enemy instead of our allies. Isn’t inflation rising, groceries are getting more expensive, gas prices are rising, car insurance is going up….. Is this what you wanted? FAFO

 

[HuckFinn]

I can't wait to hear the spin on how that's a good thing for America

I suppose that since millions will be losing health insurance, everyone will stop going to the hospital and just die at home. So no need to have all those extra hospitals just sitting there.

Three hospitals within 3 or 4 blocks, all of which have high tech equipment to compete with each other. So each of them have equipment sitting empty half of the time. Duh.

 

[SCHawkeye2]

I'm not going to come out and say its a cult, but from a political standpoint its the unhealthiest following I've ever seen. Trump stores, shoes, bibles, mugshot shirts, attempted assassination shirts and the list goes on and on. I've honestly seen nothing like it. IMO it's gross and goes way beyond passionate and falls right into the creepy and disturbing category. I've never seen anything like it and hope I don't.

Trump is a grifter.
His political career is the biggest con in history.

 

[ajdwhs87]

Check out the resignation letter submitted by a judge who is a Trump nominee (3 weeks ago!) and former Antonin Scalia clerk over the Trump DOJ tomfoolery:

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Here is another beaut from one of the other prosecutors on the Adams case:
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Was he one of the ones that was gonna be fired? I don't put much into the "resigning" ahead of a firing and trying to make Trump look bad. I mean it is the better plan. Pay a bunch more money and try Adams or save our money hold it over him, because the charges can be revisited they are not dead, and you have some more control in NY. 59 million FEMA just this month tried to go to non-citizens including 19 million of that for hotels. FEMA money needs to go to NC and such. Smart plan to save some $$$ and get some say in NY which is in need of it. Next getting rid of congestion pricing. Imagine a cost just to drive into a part of a city you are already in just because an agency, the MTA, is so corrupt and mismanages billions so they just hit the people up for more $$$.

Heck do something to try and get some control. If Adams got some money, wow, that is novel. See the list of politicians recently that are worth so many millions while making 200,000 a year. Adams talks but does nothing at all. Getting something out of him is a good play.

 

[PCHawk]

So far Trump is doing what he ran on. Other than the "day one" hyperbole that we all knew was hyperbole, all informed Trump voters should be really happy right now. Now if you were am illegal immigrant who voted for him because you weren't informed enough to know what was coming, you are probably regretting your vote right now.

 

[HawkIowa44]

So far Trump is doing what he ran on. Other than the "day one" hyperbole that we all knew was hyperbole, all informed Trump voters should be really happy right now. Now if you were am illegal immigrant who voted for him because you weren't informed enough to know what was coming, you are probably regretting your vote right now.

So, whenever he doesn’t follow through with what he convinced his cult he would do it’s just “hyperbole”? Got it.

You must be happy about all these people losing their jobs, healthcare, inflation rising and so much more that will continue to get worse. How about embracing our enemies and dictators while alienating our allies?

 

[HawkIowa44]

Lower egg prices was just hyperbole

Lower gas prices was just hyperbole

Lower grocery prices was just hyperbole

Lower energy prices was just hyperbole

Lower cost of living was just hyperbole

Protecting Social Security and Medicare was just hyperbole

 

[PCHawk]

Lower egg prices was just hyperbole

Lower gas prices was just hyperbole

Lower grocery prices was just hyperbole

Lower energy prices was just hyperbole

Lower cost of living was just hyperbole

Protecting Social Security and Medicare was just hyperbole

Anything he said would happen on day one was hyperbole. You don't lower prices on day one. It was a lame exaggeration for him to say. That part is for sure.

For all we know he is protecting Medicare and social security. If they are bankrupting those things with their corruption, and he eliminates the corruption, then he would be saving them. That has yet to be seen and can still go either way. But you pretending it's already decided doesn't make much sense.