You mean the comments you linked yesterday on here and I responded to?
Trump supporters, how do you square this?
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But it's clearly a personal opinion. This isn't a situation where 95% of judges are in agreement. This is an extreme minority of judges that are doing this. I've said before but I'll say it again. If someone very powerful with different political agendas wanted to find a judge to issue a national injunction to try to slow/stop something the president is doing, they will find that judge every single time. Are you trying to argue that Trump wouldn't or couldn't do that? Find a judge sympathetic to his cause to fight everything that was done the last four years? Of course he could have. He didn't because that's not what this country does.
Westernhawk
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I really wish you would quit lumping all arguments into "democrats" and "republicans". It's a lazy way to make an argument.
Also, the point is whether the actual President wants to, or actually defies a Judge's order. Personally, I think that publicly ridiculing judges is just f'n terrible, but you seem to be okay with these things.
Do you support moving towards a more authoritarian government, where the administrative branch controls the other branches? There's a word for that.
I lump most of my arguments into career politician and non career politician. This particular point I just made had to do specifically with democrats tho.
The point that you made that I rebuttaled was people being happy with and wanting Trump to defy judges. I simply said plenty of democrats wanted Biden to defy the Supreme Court. But also Biden (actually his handlers) also wanted to defy the SC. He even went as far as doing ALMOST the exact same thing, but just different enough to pretend his new act wasn't defying them.
I guess for the millionth time I'll say there definitely needs to be a way to keep a president in check. So that means no I don't want a more authoritarian government. So answer this. Do you think it's ok for a judge to abuse their power and try to slow/stop every move a president makes. Or another question is do you think it's possible that a situation could arise where people behind the scenes were using judges in that manner? Keep in mind I'm not asking if you think that's what's happening now. You don't even have to answer me if you don't want. Just think to yourself if you think it could happen. Once you come to that obvious answer,aybe you will have a better understanding of my thoughts. Because I do think it's happening right now.
SCHawkeye2
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2024 "monthslong" Iowa Election Fraud Findings
1,700,000 votes were cast.
35 illegal votes were discovered.
0.002%
Seems a little short of the 'rampant and widespread voter fraud' touted by Trump and his lackeys to justify draconian new voting hurdles to prevent this "outrageous fraud".
www.thegazette.com
1,700,000 votes were cast.
35 illegal votes were discovered.
0.002%
Seems a little short of the 'rampant and widespread voter fraud' touted by Trump and his lackeys to justify draconian new voting hurdles to prevent this "outrageous fraud".
35 Iowans without U.S. citizenship voted in 2024, state’s top elections official says
Iowa Secretary of State Paul Pate released the information amid a monthslong effort to identify Iowans without citizenship who registered or attempted to vote
www.thegazette.com
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The GOP lies. It's how they control the masses. It works. See some of the ridiculous skirt around of truth and the American way even in this thread.2024 "monthslong" Iowa Election Fraud Findings
1,700,000 votes were cast.
35 illegal votes were discovered.
0.002%
Seems a little short of the 'rampant and widespread voter fraud' touted by Trump and his lackeys to justify draconian new voting hurdles to prevent this outrageous fraud.
35 Iowans without U.S. citizenship voted in 2024, state’s top elections official says
Iowa Secretary of State Paul Pate released the information amid a monthslong effort to identify Iowans without citizenship who registered or attempted to vote
Iowa wasn't even a state where anyone claimed there was issues was it?2024 "monthslong" Iowa Election Fraud Findings
1,700,000 votes were cast.
35 illegal votes were discovered.
0.002%
Seems a little short of the 'rampant and widespread voter fraud' touted by Trump and his lackeys to justify draconian new voting hurdles to prevent this outrageous fraud.
35 Iowans without U.S. citizenship voted in 2024, state’s top elections official says
Iowa Secretary of State Paul Pate released the information amid a monthslong effort to identify Iowans without citizenship who registered or attempted to vote
The maga Iowa legislature of course claimed voter fraud and have enacted several laws to address these lies. I could give you many instances, here’s one
www.thegazette.com
MAGA legislators making laws to pass their ridiculous agenda in our schools and colleges now. Idiots rule and idiots keep voting them in
Citing falsehoods, Iowa GOP lawmaker backs voting limits
DES MOINES – An Iowa lawmaker used the debunked claim of widespread election fraud to explain his support Wednesday for …
www.thegazette.com
MAGA legislators making laws to pass their ridiculous agenda in our schools and colleges now. Idiots rule and idiots keep voting them in
HuckFinn
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Here is one for you: “The masses are always revolting.”
SCHawkeye2
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When judges do their job to interpret and uphold the law and the president rejects their authority - guess which branch is the dangerous one?
When judges abuse their power and undermine the president doing what he was voted in to do - guess which branch is the dangerous one?
Where did a judge abuse their power?
SCHawkeye2
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So if people voted for Trump to accomplish some outcome, it is your belief that Trump can do anything he wishes, including illegal acts, to achieve the outcome.
No. But like I've said earlier. Any decent judge could always find a way to interpret an act as illegal, tying it up in courts and delaying the agenda a president was elected to do. That's what I believe is happening now.
Westernhawk
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Yikes, if true:
variety.com
Trump’s Defense Secretary Accidentally Texted War Plans to The Atlantic: ‘I Didn’t Think It Could Be Real,’ Editor Says
Pete Hegseth, President Trump's secretary of defense, inadvertently included the top editor of The Atlantic in a Signal text chat group revealing the U.S.'s attack plans on Houthi rebels in Yemen.
variety.com
Hay Man
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Now now, every administration does that....look at what Biden and Obama did.....Yikes, if true:
Trump’s Defense Secretary Accidentally Texted War Plans to The Atlantic: ‘I Didn’t Think It Could Be Real,’ Editor Says
Pete Hegseth, President Trump's secretary of defense, inadvertently included the top editor of The Atlantic in a Signal text chat group revealing the U.S.'s attack plans on Houthi rebels in Yemen.
Westernhawk
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There's always a tweet or a clip that "out" these bozos.
