What you have stated is the worst kind of disaster. A program just mediocre enough to not change anything or make any moves to get better. Just blah. Maybe better to be very bad and shuffle things around to give some hope...
This program is kind of a disaster....
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What you have stated is the worst kind of disaster. A program just mediocre enough to not change anything or make any moves to get better. Just blah. Maybe better to be very bad and shuffle things around to give some hope...
Northside Hawk
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Some of Lute's best teams, especially in the Sky King era, didn't even hear their names mentioned for the NIT, let alone the NCAA. It was much tougher to get into postseason play in the mid 1970's. Those teams would be solid six or seven seeds today.
WindsorHawk
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Ranking...Cook<Garza<Wieskamp<Patrick
And this doesn’t include Joe T the much needed and climbing in the rankings PG. And Baer was a recruited walk on. He didn’t just show up one day. If you are suggesting an obvious improvement in recruiting you’re right...telling.
Northside Hawk
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They have a saying for teams like that in the NBA.
Hell.
I brought something up about a month ago that won't happen, but should. Axe one or two of the these assistant coaches and replace them with young rising stars who are motivated to be head coaches in five or six years. That's what Izzo did in the late nineties to get traction in his program. He had Tom Crean and Phil Heath on his staff. Gene Keady had Bruce Weber and Matt Painter for a decade, albeit not at the same time.
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lightning1
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Half right. Defense and offensive efficiency/low TOs.
1977Hawkeye
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Threads like this are definitely an overreaction. If you want to see a disaster, just look at Fran's predecessor.
At least Fran has made the tournament a few times, and probably again this year. Could be a lot worse. Last year was basically a flukey bad season.
That said, I'm tired of being teased with the possibility of great seasons, just to see it frittered away the last month of the season, time and time again. Fran's tenure IMO can be summed up in two words:. Missed opportunity.
At least Fran has made the tournament a few times, and probably again this year. Could be a lot worse. Last year was basically a flukey bad season.
That said, I'm tired of being teased with the possibility of great seasons, just to see it frittered away the last month of the season, time and time again. Fran's tenure IMO can be summed up in two words:. Missed opportunity.
Northside Hawk
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He can start redeeming himself next week by winning on Thursday, then pulling an upset or two.
It won't completely vindicate him but it would be a start. Have we really gone well over a decade without making it to Saturday in that thing, and to Friday only once? You know, it's awfully hard to do that without trying.
lightning1
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I sure hope we are a better team next year. Here's our roster for next year.
Cook - SR (4 yr starter)
Bohannon - SR (4 yr starter)
Moss - 5th yr SR (3 yr starter)
Kreiner - SR
Dailey - SR
Garza - JR (3 yr starter)
JW - SO (2 yr starter)
Pemsl - 4th yr JR (1 yr starter in 2017)
Nunge - RS SO
CMaC - SO
CJF - RS FR
PMaC - Hopefully redshirt
Joe T - FR
That's a ton of upper classmen and experience. Even if Cook leaves, that team should be much better.
tksirius
HN's Love Doctor
Because he's that good or because his dad wants him to play?
No way he DOESN'T redshirt at 6 feet 8 140 lbs
atomicblue224
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Is this one of next years recruits?
Yes I agree with you about the offensive efficiency and lowering turnovers. But it seems most of Fran's teams come out running and gunning, scoring well in non-conf and thru the first half of the Big 10 season. Then just like pitchers and hitters get a book on each other, and defenses get a book on what types of passes a QB is bad or good at, it seems coaches and players around the Big 10 start shutting he hawk offense down in Feb. The players and coaches start to get the book on what Iowa is doing and what the strengths and weaknesses of each player. It is the smart thing to do. If a player is not a great 3 point shooter you can play off of them and clog up the offense, if they dribble better one way then take that away, if they dont like getting bodied up then do that and frustrate them.
I would say that what is needed is for the coaching staff to have more alternate cuts, screens, etc to put in the offense the second half of the season.
Defense is defense, you have to have super concentration, skills to see the ball and your player at the same time, great footwork and anticipation to beat the other player to a spot and recover when a player starts to get by you. You can tell great defensive players by how the recover when other players get beat and let up on the play.
dahlhawk
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I would argue that under Mr. Davis I always felt we had a chance. If not for the bad luck Mr. Davis seemed to have where he played the eventual NC, his record would have been even more impressive. Not a single team of Fran has made me believe they could make through the weekend. The only team I believed in was the team that lost to Tennessee.
dahlhawk
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Miscommunication is one of the Hawks biggest concerns right now and it has me scratching my head. Hawks only have one freshman, most of the players are sophs and above. In the last three games, in particular, I've seen missed rotations, missed defensive switches or just stupid ones, and horrible passing. This late in the season it's maddening to see this type of mental breakdowns. Oh, and lots of downcast faces with their hands on their hips.
dahlhawk
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Is the talent improving overall? Not this year. Next year is a maybe.
tweeterhawk
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So basically Iowa under Fran has been on the margins as the 64th to 68th best team in the land four out of six years, lower in the other two, and you’re satisfied with that?
Wow. Mediocre much?
Fryowa
Administrator
No. It’s donors who are content with the basketball program the way it is. .
If they want Fran gone they make that call. Not GB.
Fryowa
Administrator
And he’s steadily falling down the recruiting rankings as people realize he’s going to be 180 lbs soaking wet when he gets here.
His type isn’t what Iowa needs. It’s what’s prevented us from being any better than what we are now.
If you want to be a Wisconsin/Purdue/MSU, a bunch of skinny, white AAU heroes ain’t gonna get it done but that’s all Fran goes after. Big fish—small pond-itis. Unfortunately this program has a long, storied history of missing the best instate talent, and these late season flops aren’t going to improve the situation.
atomicblue224
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Of course only Dad knows best.
