HawkeyeShane
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this season...
About to drop 2 out of 3 to a team that had a grand total of ONE win this season...AT HOME!
About to drop 2 out of 3 to a team that had a grand total of ONE win this season...AT HOME!
This Is Why The Cubs Will Not Be Good...
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Hawkfromnorwalk
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Unfortunately I agree. Bullpen is going to sink this team...
HawkeyeShane
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And you also have a lead-off hitter who's batting about .230 (Theriot) Soriano and Aramis aren't batting their weight...Fukudome started hot but he's slipping now...
Hawkfromnorwalk
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And you also have a lead-off hitter who's batting about .230 (Theriot) Soriano and Aramis aren't batting their weight...Fukudome started hot but he's slipping now...
Definitely agreed but in today's situation where you have a starter give you a 7+ superb innings and he leaves the game with a two run lead the pen needs to hold that. Excluding Z's opening day debacle our starters have been pretty decent. It's everything else that is the problem.
DYK88
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Calm down there, Shane. It's a long season, only two weeks of games in the books. The Cubs have started off slow in April the past few seasons. THey have the starting pitching to contend, Lilly will be back in a week, and the guys are starting to hit. Yeah it stucks to lose today, but the season ain't over yet!
It's a long season, only two weeks of games in the books. The Cubs have started off slow in April the past few seasons. THey have the starting pitching to contend, Lilly will be back in a week, and the guys are starting to hit. Yeah it stucks to lose today, but the season ain't over yet!HawkeyeShane
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Calm down there, Shane.
A long season of crap...
I'll hold out hope until the day they're eliminated from contention DYK...but this wasn't a good sign.
HawkeyeShane
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Totally agree HFN...can we keep the starters and D. Lee and Colvin and trade everyone else???
storminspank
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Our bullpen is a freaking JOKE.
HawkeyeShane
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Fixed...no charge!
tiggerhawk
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Yes, it is over. And that applies to next year, next decade...although it can't be another century can it?Calm down there, Shane.
Compare the Cubs to the team that will win a third consecutive NL pennant:
Ryan Howard or Lee? Chase Utley or Fontenot? Jimmy Rollins or Theriot? Ruiz or Sota? Polanco or Ramirez who is s shoulder waiting to go back on the DL?
Ibanez or Soriano (this is LF, not the DH), Victorino or Byrd? Werth or Fukadome? The only Cubbie who comes close to the stature of the Phillies regular at any position is Marlon Byrd--a former Phillie, who doesn't have the speed or arm of Golden Glove CF Victorino. And let us not get into bench comparisons...As to pitching, Dempster & Lilly are the strength of the Cubs as a team, but no one would want them ahead of Halladay & Hamels...and when you compare the ages of the two teams, the Cubbies have more aging players to replace soon--Ramirez, Lee, Soriano--but the Phillies have the kind of talent stocking their farm system that they can trade three kids for Brad Lidge, three for Joe Blanton, four more for Cliff Lee, another three for Roy Halladay...and the Cubs keep cycling 26 year old AAAA players like Fuld, Fox, Hoffpauer, Caridad, etc ad naseum.
These are the guys you have to beat to win a pennant. They aren't going away. You could come close to making a similar comparison to the Cardinals. The Rockies & Giants are better & younger.
In the meantime Hendley will continue to hold on to guys like Head Case #1 Carlos Zambrano, won't move Ramirez for what he can get, won't swallow hard & write off the huge wastes of cash to Soriano & Fukadome, and will continue to blunder on big money in the draft to college guys who have already peaked like Samardzija, Colvin, Castner instead of having the patience to use the picks on high ceiling toolsy HS prospects.
New ownership doesn't make much difference if it leaves the same management in place.
PatrickAdamovicz
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It is a long season, but his bullpen is going to kill them. Grabow is awful. The biggest loss was when Guzman went down. There is no help in sight for the bullpen. Curtains!
ShadasRevenge
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Everyone's bullpen is a joke; look around MLB, there aren't very many performing at a very high level.
It's easy for us (Cub fans) to point the finger at the bullppen, especially after a loss like todays, but eventually Marmol was going to blow a save, and eventually Marshall was going to allow a baserunner. At some point in the season, those two things were going to happen.
That being said, the Cubs got a leadoff double in the 6th, and left that runner on base. Score that run, win the game.
blkngoldUofI
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I don't think the bullpen is that bad. The last how many years the pitching has been fine. It's the offense that is inconsistent, getting timely hits is something the whole orginization lacks. Add in they don't play great defense and it it won't get any better until Castro is brought up and Theriot is playing 2B taking away playing time from Baker and Fontenot. I kind of hope the Cubs are out of it by the trade deadline so Hendry can't bring back Lee, look for takers for Fukudome, trade Z and possibly trade Lilly so he can free up some money and get a qulaity FA or trade for the Padres 1B Gonzalez. 1B is the only position this team can upgrade at, get younger at without having to sitt a guy like Soriano. Dropping two to the Astros isn't good at all.
busabus114
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This loss was on the offense. 3 runs should be more than enough to beat the lowly Astros
HawkeyeShane
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hawkeyescott
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For the 103rd straight year, "There is always next year".
