tm3308
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Just a quick look at Smith's recent tweets there; I didn't realize just how well Ott is playing compared to his peers nationally. Leading the B1G with 7 sacks and is in the top 10 nationally.
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Just a quick look at Smith's recent tweets there; I didn't realize just how well Ott is playing compared to his peers nationally. Leading the B1G with 7 sacks and is in the top 10 nationally.
83Hawk
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And Kirk said it was not in their "best interest" to play CJ yesterday.
The sad thing is, 5 yards of Rudock's 9.74 yards per completion are yards gained after the running back who catches the ball at the line of scrimmage gains on his own.
I couldn't agree more. When we get a pass rush, the opposing qb runs for 15 yards. when the other team gets a pass rush, rudock "is running for his life". I am so sick of hearing that. What a bunch of crap. Play the more athletic qb with a better arm and let them rush the qb. You now have 1 on 1 on receivers giving you a chance to throw deep. Also, you now have a chance for your qb to run 15 yards himself. You have to have an athlete at QB in today's college football. What is strange is that rudock actually isn't that bad of a runner, but he seems to freeze up during the game. It's like test anxiety i think. He has all the knowledge of where he should go before the play starts, but seemingly as it progresses, he can't think on the run. Just disappointing all around
WinOneThisCentury
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I hate to say this Spider, but see ya. It was sharing your misery.
I wonder where his yards per pass ATTEMPT are ranked? In my opinion that's by far the most important stat. It's gotta be higher but I'm sure it's still pretty bad.
He gone.
ArvadaHawk
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Chosen, you are correct with your analysis. But this is how/why I think CJ can help. First, the defensive problems are personnel based and CJ obviously can't fix recruiting. But, CJ can:
* Provide an offense that is capable of scoring drives. In CJ's 6 quarters of play, he lead something like 6 or 7 scoring drives of 70+ yards. CJ moves the sticks and scores points.
* Can lead an offense that can win shootouts. This, indirectly, helps protect the defense. With JR, there just must be a sense of almost having to pitch a shutout amongst the defensive players. That would be a tough reality to maintain.
* With CJ's willingness and ability to go vertical and stretch the field, that makes defenses "declare" by loading the box or not. I think part of the OL's problems stem from always facing 8 or 9 men in the box. Defenses are able to blitz more easily and disguise their blitz's more easily because they are not forced to declare anything. The back 7's never have to turn their backs and cover receivers.
CJ can fix some things. I'm really not certain what KF is watching. But even if JR is a great practice guy, surely, KF must now see JR's abilities or lack of some, is hamstringing the offense and, the defense, as well, by his lack of production.
ArvadaHawk
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I really believed KF was going to go with CJ after the PU game. He made the wrong decision and that helped cost us the MD game. KF has a second chance. Does he correct his choice? I've said recently that I'd rather see CJ as the starter the rest of this season and live with his mistakes and allow him to master the offense. CJ actually makes GD's offense work and make sense. If CJ becomes the starter, then I can live with 7 wins and a bowl game this season. If JR remains the starter, then we aren't likely going to be much better than 8 wins, anyway. I really don't see a downside to starting CJ the remainder of the season.
If JR does start the remainder of the season, and if I was CJ, I'd be thinking about my future, right now. I'd have my dad start making calls to FCS schools down south to see if they'd be willing to allow CJ to come in next season and be the starter, regardless.
Exactly. Ruddock is a good kid and pretty smart. But go back to his high school days and some of the games he has looked good in. What is in common? He looks good when he can stand forever back there and really step into his throws. When the play breaks down or requires less seconds to think, he clearly does not have it. I'm sure he is a hell of a practice player too, which I believe means a lot to ferentz.
Darn right he's a hell of a practice player. You think he gives a rip about the pressure he feels when he's wearing a red jersey? Couple that with the fact that our "give up the short stuff" defense is the perfect match for Rudock to showcase his strengths and I'd be shocked if Rudock doesn't look like Montana in practice.
I wondered when someone would ask this question. This Team was not ready to play yesterday. I don't know when I have been so disappointed in a Hawkeye performance. Im concerned that even if they switched now its not fair to CJB They have waited so long to give him experience it puts him in a unfair position. We are in the stretch run now. Most of you know by now I am a huge KF supporter. But if he doesn't pull a rabit out of his hat His time at Iowa may be running out. Not saying he would be fired this year. But it could be a death spiral GO HAWKS
hawkjunkie
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If there is going to be infighting, it will be behind closed doors. I am sure there are some good discussions going on. But it will take KF a while to change his ways, if it ever happens...and if it does happen, it will be about the play calling, more than the QB. We started off great. Got a double digit lead, and then hit the "conservative button".
How many passes went for over 15 yards? It couldn't have been more than 5 or 6 passes. That'll spread a defense, almost never.
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ArvadaHawk
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Holy crap, PC, I'd not even thought of JR looking like Montana in practice because of our own scheme. Good point, indeed. Excellent point.
hawkeyebob62
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Jon, I respect your opinion, but your presenting some knee-jerk stuff.
Jake wasn't at his best yesterday, but of our problems, QB is well down the list. The OL did NOT pass-block well, and WRs were not getting open deep. BUT...CJB should have gotten reps yesterday.
But the BIGGEST problem: scheme. WTH with abandoning the run?
hawkeyebob62
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All great speculation, but...yesterday's D performance was atrocious. The play-calling/scheme/abandoning the run was atrocious.
How anyone can really care who plays QB is beyond me when the scheme is so awful, and the D is still "hiccuping".
Granted, I really believe we NEED both QBs, but it's just as well CJ didn't, for his own sake, have to experience yesterday's "events".
ArvadaHawk
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I think your just wrong here, Bob. We do have multiple problems. But QB is at the top of the list. Having a vertical offense will absolutely help the OL. As it is, right now with JR at the helm, almost all of our passing plays are within less than 10 yards from the LOS or behind the LOS (screens). The biggest problem our OL is having is due to 8, 9 or 10 in the box. That changes with CJ cuz he can and will throw deep. That is just the reality.
DJI9424
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From what I saw yesterday, Rudock is showing signs of injury - I don't know if it is the hip problem they alluded to earlier this year but he is not as quick on his feet nor does he have the arm strength that he had in prior games. Clearly, he does not have a strong arm even when 100% healthy but now that he can't plant or push off like he needs to, his passing is definitely suspect. For example, in the pick 6 throw, it looked like he threw the ball about as hard as he could, but that ball was never getting to its intended destination (trajectory was flat and sinking fast), even if there had been no defender to intercept it. If that's all you can produce when you are throwing as hard as you can, you really have no business playing unless there is no one else to play your position.
As is his customary response, KF told us nothing about the status of JR or CJ; instead, he gave us his standard response. Well, he may be able to keep us somewhat in the dark but he is not fooling any of the opposition - they have all the tape to see what is going on and they will do their best to exploit it. KF may be stubborn, but he can't be so stupid to think that other coaching staffs don't see what is happening.
Unless CJ has a concussion or a broken arm, I don't see how KF can keep him on the bench - JR may be able to recover some strength in this next bye week but he likely will not be able to finish the season without showing signs of further deterioration, especially if his line cannot pass block effectively. We'll have to wait to see what happens but if KF continues to play JR in a weakened state, then we know the trajectory of this season will mimic the strength of JR's passes.
As is his customary response, KF told us nothing about the status of JR or CJ; instead, he gave us his standard response. Well, he may be able to keep us somewhat in the dark but he is not fooling any of the opposition - they have all the tape to see what is going on and they will do their best to exploit it. KF may be stubborn, but he can't be so stupid to think that other coaching staffs don't see what is happening.
Unless CJ has a concussion or a broken arm, I don't see how KF can keep him on the bench - JR may be able to recover some strength in this next bye week but he likely will not be able to finish the season without showing signs of further deterioration, especially if his line cannot pass block effectively. We'll have to wait to see what happens but if KF continues to play JR in a weakened state, then we know the trajectory of this season will mimic the strength of JR's passes.
RedFieldHawk
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Bingo. How is it that coaches with the experience of KF and GD can't see this???
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hawkeyebob62
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What did vertical help yesterday? It's obvious, from the numbers, that WRs weren't getting open. Pass-blocking was, at best, "OK".
Weisman was getting the yards in the 3rd quarter. We promptly abandoned the run. There was absolutely NO reason to abandon the run at that point. PA would have, most-likely, been successful. But we never executed any PA because we flat-out abandoned "run" after Weisman's 2nd TD.
Had there been 8/9/10 in the box yesterday, Weisman isn't having that success in the 3rd quarter. But Maryland was getting effective pressure with FIVE guys, some times four. That simply can't happen if you actually want to win.
Of COURSE vertical "helps". So does tackling. So does containment. So does decent pass coverage. So does a scheme that mixes it up better, isn't fraught with 3 yard outs and gets after its bread-and-butter until it works instead of getting a TD drive with Weisman tearing it up, then promptly pretending this is the 1985 Mississippi Valley State Delta Devils.
Throwing 50+ times per game has NEVER been what KF is about. I don't care if it's dink-dunk or Air Coryell.
EDIT: Weisman had 10 carries yesterday. I assume that was most of the RBs. How many actual rushing attempts did we have? And with a 14-0 start, "run-first" should have been the mantra. But again, Weisman had TEN carries.
