Swiss soccer players with NCAA eligibility?

thejumper5 said:
http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/game?gameId=310700275
Click to expand...

Actually if you counted the rim as a first defender, it really wouldn't be all that much different. You can be offside and not involved in the play. Especially how many 3's are chucked up by teams anymore. It would be more prevalent on a pick and roll as the ball would have to be released before the offense moved past the last 2nd last defender.

What's the line used around here... oh that's right... "Learn the Game"
 
pythagoras said:
Actually if you counted the rim as a first defender, it really wouldn't be all that much different. You can be offside and not involved in the play. Especially how many 3's are chucked up by teams anymore. It would be more prevalent on a pick and roll as the ball would have to be released before the offense moved past the last 2nd last defender.

What's the line used around here... oh that's right... "Learn the Game"
Click to expand...

In the half court, I agree that the style wouldn't be that different than is currently prevalent. Wide open back door cutting would be less common, lobs would be structured differently, and kick outs to corner 3s would require precise spacing. The big difference would be fast break scenarios. They would need to be operated quite differently by the offense. The slow down that would likely necessitate is why I think Wisconsin-esque play would be more common if basketball had an offsides rule.

I'm not sure exactly what your final line means.
 
HawkGold said:
The flopping for sure. Offsides being eliminated would destroy the game.

At the higher level soccer coaches in game...more than one might think but in general not a lot. At the HS level, I was constantly strategizing and managing the game. I could usually see a score coming 30 seconds or minutes before they happen. Mismatches, tiring, setting up an overload. I often put one of my best offensive players in the back for a run through or overload and signal it. Where I"m different is that I teach players to keep their head up and see the whole field. I love playing prima donna players as they generally don't do that.

The World Cup is a bit disappointing this year with key teams missing or first round out.

I am glad the flopping Italy Spartans (MSU poke) didn't make it.
Click to expand...

Why exactly? I'm genuinely curious. Wouldn't that up the scoring more? Why is it a bad thing if a defender falls asleep and let's someone get behind him? Wouldn't that make it more exciting?
 
thejumper5 said:
In the half court, I agree that the style wouldn't be that different than is currently prevalent. Wide open back door cutting would be less common, lobs would be structured differently, and kick outs to corner 3s would require precise spacing. The big difference would be fast break scenarios. They would need to be operated quite differently by the offense. The slow down that would likely necessitate is why I think Wisconsin-esque play would be more common if basketball had an offsides rule.

I'm not sure exactly what your final line means.
Click to expand...

Fast break points would definitely be eliminated but the scores really wouldn't be effected like the Penn State Wisconsin gross fest of 2011
 
GoHawks24 said:
Why exactly? I'm genuinely curious. Wouldn't that up the scoring more? Why is it a bad thing if a defender falls asleep and let's someone get behind him? Wouldn't that make it more exciting?
Click to expand...

Maybe we could do MLB with a baseball T?
 
Fryowa said:
For the record, guys...

I don’t give two flying fucks if you like soccer...knock yourselves out if it’s your thing. I’m not saying you should or shouldn’t watch soccer or baseball or football or curling.

All I said was that I think it’s a ridiculous sport just like you think baseball sucks (which is my favorite sport). And that's okay.

My suggestion about shit-canning goalies is just my idea of what would make it watchable. You want to watch a bunch of third-world middle distance runners kick a ball back and forth in a pasture for an hour and a half, dropping like gunshot victims every time someone gets within 3 feet of them and eventually ending (thank god) in a score of 0-0 then go for it.

You enjoy your stupidity and I’ll enjoy mine. We won’t change each other’s minds.

Now that I made all you soccer hipsters “uber” pissed, let’s hear you get all butthurt and yell at me about how fat and uneducated and Americanish I am. :) I promise I won’t get offended but at least put some effort into it and make it funny. Unlike @proudhawkfan21
Click to expand...

What is funny is who is actually getting upset by this....
 
HawkGold said:
Maybe we could do MLB with a baseball T?
Click to expand...

Lol, alrighty then. You seriously can't provide a good reasoning? It would probably pique my interest quite a bit if there was a little more scoring. 90 minutes spent watching a nil nil game is not something that gets me too excited and makes me want to come back for more.
 
GoHawks24 said:
Lol, alrighty then. You seriously can't provide a good reasoning? It would probably pique my interest quite a bit if there was a little more scoring. 90 minutes spent watching a nil nil game is not something that gets me too excited and makes me want to come back for more.
Click to expand...

For indoor it makes sense. Indoor never stops as there is no out of bounds. Have a good one..
 
YlQbdF8.png
 
pythagoras said:
It actually rewards speed....... It's offside not offsides.......
Click to expand...

fine remove the "s" (I was speaking of multiple situations) a fast player still has to wait for the ball, allowing a slower defender a chance to stay with him. A slower defender also gets the chance to run ahead before the ball reaches them, the striker has to wait. Please explain without snark. I'd really like to understand this better.

Imagine in basketball if a guy wants to run out on a fast break, but can't run pass the defender before the ball arrives. There go 90% of your fast break dunks. Fun. Same thing in football...can't burn a defender and have the QB deliver a beautiful pass. Gotta wait for the ball before running past the defender. That helps the defender, not a fast offensive player.
 
Last edited:
hawkdrummer1 said:
fine remove the "s". a fast player still has to wait...for the ball
Click to expand...

You clearly don't understand the rule..........

You're only offside from where the ball was last touched not received. Think post pattern taking the top off the d and making space between the safety and the wide out and being wide open.

Maybe this replay video that is slowed down for your will show you where speed wins

 
Last edited:
hawkdrummer1 said:
I've never understood the reason for offsides... it negates a speed advantage instead of rewarding it.
Click to expand...
It's just an antiquated rule based on gamesmanship that they never got rid of. People say it discourages laziness by players camping out near the goals; I say it encourages lazy defense.

It'd be better to just get rid of the forward pass then. That would at least stop most of the "all else fails" kicks that make it so tedious to watch. Those kicks are 50/50 propositions and then you're back to the random, back and forth free-for-all that puts people to sleep.

It's like a lottery ball machine with one ball in it.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.

Latest posts

Share this page

Top