Stop telling people how to feel

CJHawkeye

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I responded to a tweet today that got under my skin. It wasn't a unique statement, in fact it was probably more parroting a sentiment I hear from time to time rather than a unique thought by this individual. I won't directly quote it but it was something to the effect that "adults" are being too salty on twitter. Yes we are under performing but stop tying your self worth to kids.

I take exception to this sentiment. First of all, F you. I don't walk around telling you how to feel. I express my disdain with the state of Hawkeye sports. You're free not to. I don't follow you around telling you you're an idiot for being positive.

Second, the idea that people who are expressing dissatisfaction are tying their "self-worth" to a bunch of kids playing a game represents multiple logical fallacies. Its a classic straw man. It knocks down a (faulty) premise created by the individual making the argument. I never said "God, the Hawkeyes need to be better because they are bad and that is making my life bad." This person inferred that. Also its an attempt ad an ad hominim attack. "Well you're so wrapped in up in this, you must be a loser." As I responded, that is no different from me saying "Well you accept this mediocrity, you must be a low performer in life."

I don't expect people to adhere to "rules of debate and proper argument" on twitter, but this concept that people who are unhappy and unwilling to accept the current level of performance "are not real fans", "need to stop tying their self worth to kids playing a game", are "losers" needs to stop. As I said, it is no more valid than claiming that people who "will always be a fan no matter what" are mediocre losers in life.
 
Just wondering how long it's going to take you to realize you are doing the exact same thing they are.

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Don't let it get you down. These people are the same ones that are 'ok' with our football coach having a 10&9 record against Iowa State. They accept less than mediocre...I mean c'mon it's Iowa State! Moo-U! The 'clowns'!!!!!!
 
What if you accept mediocrity in Iowa football because you're in fact in all respects mediocre.
You know, this guy -

upload_2017-12-5_16-35-52.jpeg Although I get the feeling if this guy saw one more stretch run to the short side of the field he might just do something about it.
 
What if you accept mediocrity in Iowa football because you're in fact in all respects mediocre.
You know, this guy -

View attachment 2974 Although I get the feeling if this guy saw one more stretch run to the short side of the field he might just do something about it.
The same argument could be made for people who "won't accept mediocrity". Perhaps they didn't amount to much, and are trying to live vicariously through the Hawks?

What I'm saying is, both arguments are bullshit.
 
The same argument could be made for people who "won't accept mediocrity". Perhaps they didn't amount to much, and are trying to live vicariously through the Hawks?

What I'm saying is, both arguments are bullshit.
I was being more of a smartass than making a point. The only truth is that everyone who takes the time to write a post on HN.com is a fan of the Iowa Hawkeyes, that's the bottom line. The rest is just details.
 
I was being more of a smartass than making a point. The only truth is that everyone who takes the time to write a post on HN.com is a fan of the Iowa Hawkeyes, that's the bottom line. The rest is just details.
Yeah I got that after rereading, so in retrospect, my comment is not directed at you. My point still stands though.
 
I responded to a tweet today that got under my skin. It wasn't a unique statement, in fact it was probably more parroting a sentiment I hear from time to time rather than a unique thought by this individual. I won't directly quote it but it was something to the effect that "adults" are being too salty on twitter. Yes we are under performing but stop tying your self worth to kids.

I take exception to this sentiment. First of all, F you. I don't walk around telling you how to feel. I express my disdain with the state of Hawkeye sports. You're free not to. I don't follow you around telling you you're an idiot for being positive.

Second, the idea that people who are expressing dissatisfaction are tying their "self-worth" to a bunch of kids playing a game represents multiple logical fallacies. Its a classic straw man. It knocks down a (faulty) premise created by the individual making the argument. I never said "God, the Hawkeyes need to be better because they are bad and that is making my life bad." This person inferred that. Also its an attempt ad an ad hominim attack. "Well you're so wrapped in up in this, you must be a loser." As I responded, that is no different from me saying "Well you accept this mediocrity, you must be a low performer in life."

I don't expect people to adhere to "rules of debate and proper argument" on twitter, but this concept that people who are unhappy and unwilling to accept the current level of performance "are not real fans", "need to stop tying their self worth to kids playing a game", are "losers" needs to stop. As I said, it is no more valid than claiming that people who "will always be a fan no matter what" are mediocre losers in life.



When are we going to stop calling 19-22 year old young men, KIDS!!

That is what gets under my skin.
 
I responded to a tweet today that got under my skin. It wasn't a unique statement, in fact it was probably more parroting a sentiment I hear from time to time rather than a unique thought by this individual. I won't directly quote it but it was something to the effect that "adults" are being too salty on twitter. Yes we are under performing but stop tying your self worth to kids.

I take exception to this sentiment. First of all, F you. I don't walk around telling you how to feel. I express my disdain with the state of Hawkeye sports. You're free not to. I don't follow you around telling you you're an idiot for being positive.

Second, the idea that people who are expressing dissatisfaction are tying their "self-worth" to a bunch of kids playing a game represents multiple logical fallacies. Its a classic straw man. It knocks down a (faulty) premise created by the individual making the argument. I never said "God, the Hawkeyes need to be better because they are bad and that is making my life bad." This person inferred that. Also its an attempt ad an ad hominim attack. "Well you're so wrapped in up in this, you must be a loser." As I responded, that is no different from me saying "Well you accept this mediocrity, you must be a low performer in life."

I don't expect people to adhere to "rules of debate and proper argument" on twitter, but this concept that people who are unhappy and unwilling to accept the current level of performance "are not real fans", "need to stop tying their self worth to kids playing a game", are "losers" needs to stop. As I said, it is no more valid than claiming that people who "will always be a fan no matter what" are mediocre losers in life.

You know what you need to do.....?


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