Some telling offensive stats

[homes]

He was throwing to a place or spot. Just as everyone has said and asked him to do.
Getting through traffic late is the same as getting jammed, it affects timing. Also who cares if someone was following? Was he going to turn around and go back to the Los? If someone was following that's even more reason to pour on the speed once through traffic and get separation.
I'm not saying the throw was great, that's not my point, just saying there is enough that went wrong in several places to make the play break down.

In some instances, throwing to a spot is like a DB playing zone covering grass - it doesn't make sense in context of the situation. It's up to the QB in that instance to adjust as he has all the control (and that's giving the benefit of the doubt that Hockenson did something he wasn't supposed to do, which you've presumed to be true), not just follow orders. You know what, we can go round and round on this, but Iowa still came up short, 30-24. That seems to be the calling card for this year's team.

 

[NoBeer]

well we saw it over and over in 2017.

Yes. This idea that Stanley choking is out of the blue is mind boggling to me.

 

[hawkeyes87]

Getting through traffic late is the same as getting jammed, it affects timing.

Did you watch the replay?

TJ is already 5 yards past the line / traffic when NS pulls the ball back to throw it. So there was zero impact to timing.

Just a poor throw, likely because he doesn't step into it.

 

[GotTimDodge]

Agree on his inaccuracy, but then he turns around and makes unbelievable throws. It's the latter that makes the prior so confounding and frustrating. He's 82nd (out of 117, bottom 30%) in completion percentage at 57.2%; Iowa needed a bigger improvement in his completion percentage this year, since they can only rely on his arm, not his legs for yards. They haven't gotten it. It's part of why they're 6-3 this year - inconsistent results.

What are his unbelievable throws?
And show me a bad QB that has never once made a good throw.
They all have.

Stanley is really no good at all.
Trying to find a positive about him is hard!
What... he's big? Has a big arm? Lol really? And that means what exactly?

 

[Ree4]

And some people want to blame the coaches for this??

 

[SidFarkas]

ISM # 2 NCAA kickoff return leader.

Yet, somehow we can’t scheme 4-5 times a game to get the ball to our fastest player...

 

[BVHawk95]

Nate is 0 for his last 14 in balls thrown over 20 yards in the air.

But the pass pro has been good. Yes?

Eh. It was not that great against Penn State, but their DL is pretty solid. Didn't see much of the Purdue game so I can't say there.

 

[BVHawk95]

What are his unbelievable throws?
And show me a bad QB that has never once made a good throw.
They all have.

Stanley is really no good at all.
Trying to find a positive about him is hard!
What... he's big? Has a big arm? Lol really? And that means what exactly?

Two perfect fades to Vandeberg and ISM against the clowns last year. Drop in the bucket to Fant on a streak against OSU. Two beautiful scrambles and throws against Wiscy and Indiana this year. I came up with those in 30 seconds of thinking.

Show me a good QB that's never once made a bad throw. You're really not trying that hard if you can find no positives about Stanley.

The guy isn't the next coming of Big Ben or even Ricky Stanzi, but pretending he's awful when he's got 43 career TD passes in two years as a starter is pure garbage.

 

[Fryowa]

The guy isn't the next coming of Big Ben or even Ricky Stanzi, but pretending he's awful when he's got 43 career TD passes in two years as a starter is pure garbage.

He's not awful; he's just mind numbingly inconsistent.

I know that there's a lot of hyperbole thrown around about Nate Stanley, but I'd challenge anyone to find a QB who has had such high highs and such low lows. Whether his aggregate numbers are good or not, you can't operate like that. There's no way to plan for a Jekyl and Hyde situation with no idea who's going to show up. He's either playing Nerf catch with opposing CBs and missing his own guys by six feet, or he's threading the needle on throws that make him look like an NFL veteran. There's no in between. How do you come up with (and execute) an offensive strategy for that?

 

[BVHawk95]

He's not awful; he's just mind numbingly inconsistent.

I know that there's a lot of hyperbole thrown around about Nate Stanley, but I'd challenge anyone to find a QB who has had such high highs and such low lows. Whether his aggregate numbers are good or not, you can't operate like that. There's no way to plan for a Jekyl and Hyde situation with no idea who's going to show up. He's either playing Nerf catch with opposing CBs and missing his own guys by six feet, or he's threading the needle on throws that make him look like an NFL veteran. There's no in between. How do you come up with (and execute) an offensive strategy for that?

It reminds me of the US part of this image:

 

[Fryowa]

It reminds me of the US part of this image:

Well shit, man. Now I feel better.

NW doesn't have a damn clue what we're going to do.

Hawks by a million.

 

[WinOneThisCentury]

And some people want to blame the coaches for this??

And the 10 or 12 other throws that night where he missed wide open guys.

 

[uihawk82]

Still hard to believe he threw it that badly.

He is better at throwing the ball more on a line. He threw a great touch pass late in the ISU game to win it, and some other great touch passes this year throwing to spots down the field.

He is just not consistent at it. I still like most of the stuff about Nate and if he gets beat out so be it bcuz I hope the new starter will be better.

As far as throwing behind or too long for receivers I am not sure if Nate judges the speed of throws with speed and angles receivers are moving at a very exact rate.

 

[uihawk82]

In all fairness, it took awhile to get through traffic, which affected it, but also notice that as soon as he got through traffic, he was looking for the ball and not even up to speed.
The play is designed for a lofting throw over a crowded box, which is easy to sail anyway.
More bad timing than a bad throw.
Both are to blame. You don't start turning to look for the ball 5yards after the Los when the play is a lofting throw designed for 15 yards.
Again enough blame for everyone.

If you are going to blame the receiver also then lets blame the pass game coaches because the route should be run at at least 20-30 degrees across the field so the QB can get a judge on the speed the receiver is running.

In this case TJ is running in a straight line away from Nate which as any of you know makes it more difficult to judge the speed. just think of looking at a car at a distance moving straight at you versus at a radial angle across your field of visiion.

BF and KOK should know this, there blame on the coaches also haha, but the truth

 

[NoBeer]

And the 10 or 12 other throws that night where he missed wide open guys.

I love people who keep pretending its an isolated case. Its not.

 

[HawkeyeWalker]

In all fairness, it took awhile to get through traffic, which affected it, but also notice that as soon as he got through traffic, he was looking for the ball and not even up to speed.
The play is designed for a lofting throw over a crowded box, which is easy to sail anyway.
More bad timing than a bad throw.
Both are to blame. You don't start turning to look for the ball 5yards after the Los when the play is a lofting throw designed for 15 yards.
Again enough blame for everyone.

Nah. Hock shares zero blame. He has no way to anticipate how clean he's getting through the line. He was open by 15 yards. A ball within 5 yards of him scores.

 

[Caddy]

What are his unbelievable throws?
And show me a bad QB that has never once made a good throw.
They all have.

Stanley is really no good at all.
Trying to find a positive about him is hard!
What... he's big? Has a big arm? Lol really? And that means what exactly?

It's the equivalent of a pitcher that throws 99 mph and doesn't have a clue where the ball is going. Strikes out 1 guy for every 10 he walks.

 

[hawkeyes87]

It's the equivalent of a pitcher that throws 99 mph and doesn't have a clue where the ball is going. Strikes out 1 guy for every 10 he walks.

So your post made me think of "Major League" and Rick Vaughn, aka "The Wild Thing".

And that made me think- maybe NS just needs glasses? It's not that his throws are inconsistent, it's that his ability to accurately see the receivers is inconsistent!

 

[earlkoppelman]

per Tom Kakert:

Iowa hasn't completed a pass that has gone 20 yards in the air in the past three games.

Iowa has had only 4 running plays that have gained 20 yards or more.
All season.

Sounds like you need another Billy K..story.It is possible to RUN table and go 10-3.Starts Sat. Noah and T.J. huuge games with Nate bombing away. A do-able. Almost 8am in eureka.Then Happy Hour at Dave's.Discount beers. Cold today about 35 and Foggy. 8am and counting. Sat is step #1.

 

[4thngoal]

If you are going to blame the receiver also then lets blame the pass game coaches because the route should be run at at least 20-30 degrees across the field so the QB can get a judge on the speed the receiver is running.

In this case TJ is running in a straight line away from Nate which as any of you know makes it more difficult to judge the speed. just think of looking at a car at a distance moving straight at you versus at a radial angle across your field of visiion.

BF and KOK should know this, there blame on the coaches also haha, but the truth

Like I said, I'm not blaming anyone. It was executed very poorly by everyone, including the plan and coaching.
A few adjustments by anyone or everyone and it works perfectly!!

Nah. Hock shares zero blame. He has no way to anticipate how clean he's getting through the line. He was open by 15 yards. A ball within 5 yards of him scores.

You can't look back after 5 yards on a longer lofting throw. No way to clear all that traffic without lofting it. It was right in front of Hokerson, not off to the side, was it over thrown? Maybe. Did Hok slow up to much? Maybe. Maybe a little of both.
Again had one or the other been slightly different, it's a td.