So what can you say after Drake game?

Hawk5656 said:
You keep talking like Moss is a good defender when he's not. I'd rather have someone MUCH better offensively and a little worse defensively if given the choice. Moss is a little better defensively and more athletic than Pete was but I bet you would take Pete back in a second because of his offense and what that opened up for others.
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Moss may not be a good defender, but he's better than Timmer. Plus, he guards much better players.

Can't take Pete back. He graduated. Would I welcome back an all-Big 10 leading scorer in the league, I guess so. Would much rather have athletic,better defender than less athletic, worse defender on this team. Pete was also 6 foot 6 and played a some defense when he felt like it. By the way, Jok's defensive numbers were never as bad as Timmer's. And he played in a Power 5 conference, not the MVC.

From the team point of view, having two 6 foot 1 bad defenders at the guard position would not work well.
 
Robowe said:
Moss may not be a good defender, but he's better than Timmer. Plus, he guards much better players.

Can't take Pete back. He graduated. Would I welcome back an all-Big 10 leading scorer in the league, I guess so. Would much rather have athletic,better defender than less athletic, worse defender on this team. Pete was also 6 foot 6 and played a some defense when he felt like it. By the way, Jok's defensive numbers were never as bad as Timmer's. And he played in a Power 5 conference, not the MVC.

From the team point of view, having two 6 foot 1 bad defenders at the guard position would not work well.
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Saying you'd rather have Moss on this team than Pete is all I needed to hear haha. Have a good one.
 
Hawk5656 said:
You keep talking like Moss is a good defender when he's not. I'd rather have someone MUCH better offensively and a little worse defensively if given the choice. Moss is a little better defensively and more athletic than Pete was but I bet you would take Pete back in a second because of his offense and what that opened up for others.
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So, by this argument, would you rather have a player that is 123.8 offensive rating/109 defensive rating over a player with 114.9 offensive rating/104.8 defensive rating? Both play guard in power 5 conferences. What other factors matter in this decision?
 
Robowe said:
Never said that. My comparison for athletic better defender vs less athletic, worse defender was Moss vs Timmer. Nice try. :)
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I don't think you're grasping how much better Timmer is offensively than Moss. He's averaging 20 points per game and shooting over 50% from 3 and Drake has played a tougher schedule than we've played this year. If you don't think a first team all MVC player starts on this roster when we just started Brady Ellingson in a game you need to pass me whatever you're having haha.
 
Hawk5656 said:
I don't think you're grasping how much better Timmer is offensively than Moss. He's averaging 20 points per game and shooting over 50% from 3 and Drake has played a tougher schedule than we've played this year. If you don't think a first team all MVC player starts on this roster when we just started Brady Ellingson in a game you need to pass me whatever you're having haha.
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So, Timmer's best games have been against Colorado (worse than any other Big 10 team), Wake Forest, Chicago State, Wyoming, and Nebraska-Omaha. Don't forget the 16 points in 28 minutes vs ... Coe! Wow! Really, he played 28 minutes vs Coe. :)

Then, he plays two Big 10 teams, and he struggles shooting. Surprised?

I didn't say Timmer wasn't better than Ellingson (nice change to the argument). I did say, he's not better for this Iowa team than Isaiah Moss, who is better defensively and more athletic. Considering those are two weak spots for Iowa, I would say making those things worse in the starting lineup is not a recipe for success.
 
Robowe said:
So, Timmer's best games have been against Colorado (worse than any other Big 10 team), Wake Forest, Chicago State, Wyoming, and Nebraska-Omaha. Don't forget the 16 points in 28 minutes vs ... Coe! Wow! Really, he played 28 minutes vs Coe. :)

Then, he plays two Big 10 teams, and he struggles shooting. Surprised?

I didn't say Timmer wasn't better than Ellingson (nice change to the argument). I did say, he's not better for this Iowa team than Isaiah Moss, who is better defensively and more athletic. Considering those are two weak spots for Iowa, I would say making those things worse in the starting lineup is not a recipe for success.
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You're going to bring up when Timmer played well when Moss combined for 8 points in 3 games versus P5 opponents? Haha!
 
Hawk5656 said:
You're going to bring up when Timmer played well when Moss combined for 8 points in 3 games versus P5 opponents? Haha!
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3 road games against P5 teams vs games vs Coe, Chicago State, and Nebraska-Omaha? Timmer's 1st road game at a power 5 opponent was for 1-8 shooting for 8 points. Not impressive. His 2nd game vs players who are more athletic than him (Iowa) was 5-14 shooting. Timmer got to play 36 minutes vs Chicago State. Moss played 13 vs Chicago State (Moss scored at a better rate than Timmer did).

Again, you never seem to answer the question ... how does Timmer being less athletic and worse defensively help Iowa?

Also, I asked you a question comparing 2 players. You don't seem to be answering that question either. Funny.
 
I gotta say it is awesome watching @Robowe own 5656 using his own previous trolls. He trolls so much on this site that he often gets caught being hypocritical to his past trolls.
 
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