Slate article on situation

[ohhawk]

Who knows how all this will play out but we have the legal issues hanging over Kirk and Brian that may or may not set the course of things to come. The other thing not mentioned much would be the role that the U of I President could play. Her interests are outside of just winning football games obviously. How is all of this affecting the reputation of the university? Don't forget she fired the AD while at Illinois. This as a result of a study involving the "mistreatment of football players". Not saying our situation is the same but it is attracting the kind of attention you don't want none the less.

She has the power to affect change and might find it necessary to do so if ridicule grows against the university and some of its practices involving football personnel. A lot can happen between now and the end of the season. It may not be all bad..........we'll see.

 

[SmokeTownHawk]

Who knows how all this will play out but we have the legal issues hanging over Kirk and Brian that may or may not set the course of things to come. The other thing not mentioned much would be the role that the U of I President could play. Her interests are outside of just winning football games obviously. How is all of this affecting the reputation of the university? Don't forget she fired the AD while at Illinois. This as a result of a study involving the "mistreatment of football players". Not saying our situation is the same but it is attracting the kind of attention you don't want none the less.

She has the power to affect change and might find it necessary to do so if ridicule grows against the university and some of its practices involving football personnel. A lot can happen between now and the end of the season. It may not be all bad..........we'll see.

Do you think she'd fire Barta?

 

[HuckFinn]

Kirk ain’t gonna fire Brian or demote him. It’d tear the family apart and Kirk knows he has more money than three generations will ever blow through, so he’ll just ride the plane crash out to its finish and let the program tank rather than have to 1) admit he made a huge mistake and 2) cause an unrepairable rift in the family.

Nope

 

[Grady]

Do you think she'd fire Barta?

She seems like a pretty status quo administrator to me. Would love to see Kirk's reaction tho if that was done with no advance warning.

 

[HuckFinn]

She seems like a pretty status quo administrator to me. Would love to see Kirk's reaction tho if that was done with no advance warning.

If you don’t think that if the U of I was damaged, she would not pull the trigger and let KF, BF, and GB go with a golden parachute, you don’t know much about the guts it takes to run a BT University. She reports to the Board, not the athletic department. She has not gotten to the presidency without making some tough, unpopular decisions and stepping on some underlings. Grow up, critics. I love these naive middle schoolers who have no clue About what it is like to sit in the top seat. “The Buck Stops Here”.

 

[ryno]

If you don’t think that if the U of I was damaged, she would not pull the trigger and let KF, BF, and GB go with a golden parachute, you don’t know much about the guts it takes to run a BT University. She reports to the Board, not the athletic department. She has not gotten to the presidency without making some tough, unpopular decisions and stepping on some underlings. Grow up, critics. I love these naive middle schoolers who have no clue About what it is like to sit in the top seat. “The Buck Stops Here”.

Agree

 

[Northside Hawk]

We're getting arguably more national news coverage for being the worst team in football than we did in 2015, lol.

When you have the longest tenured coach at one place that in itself draws a lot of attention. It's just not very common anymore and will be unheard of within a decade or two. Now that coach K has retired the only real czar left in NCAA hoops is Jim Boeheim. Who's the next longest tenured D-1 coach? Is it Izzo?

 

[okeefe4prez]

And you do? You talk like a union pipe fitter.

Sit down before you read this. Dude was a teacher.

 

[okeefe4prez]

When you have the longest tenured coach at one place that in itself draws a lot of attention. It's just not very common anymore and will be unheard of within a decade or two. Now that coach K has retired the only real czar left in NCAA hoops is Jim Boeheim. Who's the next longest tenured D-1 coach? Is it Izzo?

D-1 basketball is huge so it is probably someone at some school you've barely heard of.

 

[Fryowa]

When you have the longest tenured coach at one place that in itself draws a lot of attention. It's just not very common anymore and will be unheard of within a decade or two. Now that coach K has retired the only real czar left in NCAA hoops is Jim Boeheim. Who's the next longest tenured D-1 coach? Is it Izzo?

Boeheim. Then Izzo.

I'm 42 years old and Boeheim had already been coaching Syracuse for 6 years when I was born

 

[HawkGold]

Sit down before you read this. Dude was a teacher.

I know that.

 

[MelroseHawkins]

This nugget. Lol.

"Against Iowa State, the Hawkeyes managed to lose despite the defense giving up 10 points and the special teams blocking two punts. If Iowa had even a bad offense instead of one of the most gruesome creations in football, it would surely be at least 4-2 and probably better."

 

[NCHawker]

We're getting arguably more national news coverage for being the worst team in football than we did in 2015, lol.

correct: major national podcasts are taking 10 minutes to discuss the Iowa situation

1) College Football Enquierer
2) Solid Verbal (youtube)
3) Cover 3 (youtube)
4) Andy staples (guest Scott Dochterman) (youtube)

 

[Hawkfnntn]

If this continues the way it is trending, Brian will fall on the sword at the end of the year. He has too much respect, admiration, love for his father not to.

Here's to hoping... That feels like best case scenario but I'm not holding my breath

 

[Hawkfnntn]

Do you think she'd fire Barta?

Doubtful... Not over football having a bad yr God no. If they were going to fire Barta due to all the lawsuits and shit he's put the school through then she'd have done it already. He's given them those kinds of reasons to do so. But they just shrug their shoulders pay the lawyers and plaintiffs and keep on keeping on. Because the $ the sports programs are bringing in is ungodly and continues to be. In regards to on the field stuff across all the programs he's done a good job. One bad football season wouldn't get her to intervein. No way.

 

[kicker22]

Yeah, doesn't even need to be said. If the OC was anyone but Brian Ferentz they would have been fired by now.

IF the OC was anyone but BF they wouldn't have been handed the keys to the offense without earning it in some way or another.

 

[kicker22]

If this continues the way it is trending, Brian will fall on the sword at the end of the year. He has too much respect, admiration, love for his father not to.

I'll be that guy, but why would he wait until the end of this season? He's tanked since he got the promotion with the exception of a few games. If he really had that much respect, admiration, and love for his dad (I'm not saying he doesn't) wouldn't he have stepped down or backwards by now? I just don't see BF falling on the sword at this point if he hasn't already. I think in his mind he sees things as fixable and "not as bad" as the rest of us.

 

[NCHawker]

Kirk is in one hell of a mess. He'll have to hire an OC. Offense is his blind spot and he'll have to take his eye patch off. I belive he had fixed and limited views about offense. He's probably at loathe to sit down with some fresh faced offensive mind... he'll want to have a system where he can develop offensive linemen. A system that is built for northern cold weather, a physical style and a system that will work with 2 and 3 star developmental guys

 

[Gibsonian]

Well written article for sure.

I would guess Ferentz, the AD, and the President is sitting down to talk about "what next guys, we cannot continue like this" conversation.

 

[Hawkfnntn]

Well written article for sure.

I would guess Ferentz, the AD, and the President is sitting down to talk about "what next guys, we cannot continue like this" conversation.

I highly doubt the president will be involved at all... And as far as a convo like that happening between Barta and KF goes. It's KF that calls those shots and he doesn't see a problem so.... KF is the top of the totem pole not Barta. Kinda like how Paterno was at PSU and Bowden at FSU and Saban at Bama now....