SEC 8 team schedule vs Delaney talk of no divisions

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uihawk82

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The recent thread titled I Dont Understand about Delaney thinking of dissolving divisions made me think about the SEC schedules. They have 14 teams but only play 8 regular season games, they play a lot of patsies in the Non-conf. They should expand to a 9 game conf slate so there is more equality between season records. Maybe Bama having to play Georgia or Florida more often from the east division might actually be a very good deal.

But I am sure Bama does not want to stop their Major Rivalry with the Citadel.
 
If we want equality in college football we should probably start with pooling all the tv revenue and dividing it

equally
 
They can't resolve the disparity between the E and W. And they want the best 2 teams in the Conf Champ Game.

that is reasonable as far as I' concerned.

Iowa needs to evolve if they are going to contend.
 
Simple solution:



OHIO-PENN DIV

Ohio State
Penn State
Nebraska
Maryland
Rutgers
Northwestern
Indiana

MICHIGAN DIV

Michigan
Michigan State
Wisconsin
Iowa
Illinois
Minnesota
Purdue
 
I like the idea of getting rid of divisions mainly because it is a chance to play every team at least 50% of the time, while still keeping as many as 5 permanent rivals if you keep 9 conference games.

But if the Big Ten must have divisions, I like the east-west setup. I believe the West may have a perception problem because the East has more to teams. But usually the divisions overall are pretty equal. For example, the east only held a 11-10 advantage in regular season cross-division games. But the 3 top ranked teams were in the East. But the funny thing is, NW had the same conference record as OSU and Mich. In fact in 3 out of 5 years since the east-west split, the 2 highest ranked teams did make the CCG. The other 2 times, the game would have been a rematch of a game already played. So I don't see the problem.
 
guffus said:
I like the idea of getting rid of divisions mainly because it is a chance to play every team at least 50% of the time, while still keeping as many as 5 permanent rivals if you keep 9 conference games.

But if the Big Ten must have divisions, I like the east-west setup. I believe the West may have a perception problem because the East has more to teams. But usually the divisions overall are pretty equal. For example, the east only held a 11-10 advantage in regular season cross-division games. But the 3 top ranked teams were in the East. But the funny thing is, NW had the same conference record as OSU and Mich. In fact in 3 out of 5 years since the east-west split, the 2 highest ranked teams did make the CCG. The other 2 times, the game would have been a rematch of a game already played. So I don't see the problem.
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I think it's hard to argue that the top 3 teams in the conf weren't in the East division this year. NW was NOT a good team
 
tmess1989 said:
I think it's hard to argue that the top 3 teams in the conf weren't in the East division this year. NW was NOT a good team
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Really? NW beat MSU, Iowa, Wisc, Purdue, Neb, Minn & LL and only lost to Mich by 4 points.

If you finish 8-1 in conference, you are a good team.
 
ChosenChildren said:
Ohio State to me is clearly the dominant program. I don't see that changing anytime soon.
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might be right but a New coach can change everything—for better or worse. They can’t do much better than what, 7 Big10 losses in 9 years under Meyer.

they are more than likely going to be worse. But worse could mean 10 Big10 losses in 9 years. So there’s that.
 
How bout we just break it up according to alphabetical order, each team has two protected rivals (something like this):

Illinois, Indiana, Iowa, Maryland, Michigan, Michigan State, Minnesota

Nebraska, Northwestern, Ohio State, Penn State, Purdue, Rutgers, Wisconsin

Protected rivals
Iowa vs Wisconsin
Ohio State vs Michigan
Maryland vs Rugers
MSU vs Penn State
Minnesota vs Northwestern
Purdue vs Indiana
Illinois vs Nebraska

Iowa vs Nebraska
Minnesota vs Wisconsin
Ohio State vs Maryland
Northwestern vs Illinois
Michigan vs Penn State
Michigan State vs Purdue
Indiana vs Rutgers
 
iloveyoularrystation said:
How bout we just break it up according to alphabetical order, each team has two protected rivals (something like this):

Illinois, Indiana, Iowa, Maryland, Michigan, Michigan State, Minnesota

Nebraska, Northwestern, Ohio State, Penn State, Purdue, Rutgers, Wisconsin

Protected rivals
Iowa vs Wisconsin
Ohio State vs Michigan
Maryland vs Rugers
MSU vs Penn State
Minnesota vs Northwestern
Purdue vs Indiana
Illinois vs Nebraska

Iowa vs Nebraska
Minnesota vs Wisconsin
Ohio State vs Maryland
Northwestern vs Illinois
Michigan vs Penn State
Michigan State vs Purdue
Indiana vs Rutgers
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The IM division and
the PROWN division :)
 
NCHawker said:
They can't resolve the disparity between the E and W. And they want the best 2 teams in the Conf Champ Game.

that is reasonable as far as I' concerned.

Iowa needs to evolve if they are going to contend.
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"Best." is code for "I know that OSU lost to Purdue and Purdue is undefeated, but we also know OSU is the better team, therefore OSU was selected for the conference championship."

The top two most deserving by record should be in the ccg. That means two undefeated teams if osu or Mich have1 loss.

Getting rid of the divisions is inherently biased. Move teams around if you want equality, don't resort to eye tests.
 
DDThompson said:
might be right but a New coach can change everything—for better or worse. They can’t do much better than what, 7 Big10 losses in 9 years under Meyer.

they are more than likely going to be worse. But worse could mean 10 Big10 losses in 9 years. So there’s that.
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The season before Urban got there they only won 6 games. Urban was huge for them
 
guffus said:
Really? NW beat MSU, Iowa, Wisc, Purdue, Neb, Minn & LL and only lost to Mich by 4 points.

If you finish 8-1 in conference, you are a good team.
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They also lost to Akron and Duke at home. Plus all those teams listed didnt have good years. Iowa probably had the best year of all the teams they beat. Also they were 8-4 in the regular season. I guess our definitions of having a good year are different.
 
cincyhawk said:
Move teams around if you want equality, don't resort to eye tests.
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The problem in the Big Ten is that the West, aside from Nebraska, has no team that has really "been in the discussion" in like the past 50 years. And I think Nebraska's titles were the result of the Big 8 sucking and their season basically coming down to Oklahoma and the Orange Bowl, and I don't see them having a really high ceiling going forward.

The SEC has a weakness in the East right now, but they have three programs that have won the title in my lifetime in Florida, Georgia and Tennessee. Georgia is good now and Florida seems to be doing better. Those three teams could be a couple recruiting classes and a stud QB away from being national champs. The SEC West looks better now, but there were stretches where the East has been dominant. I just don't see that happening across the Big Ten divisions. Iowa and Wisconsin are probably the two best programs now and both of them have a long and storied history of being choke artists. Nebraska will get back on track, but even they are doomed by being in a low population state in the middle of nowhere and their ability to go out nationally and get the top recruits has really waned in the "hey let's have at least the appearance of having a compliance department" era.

Even the ACC, despite Clemson's recent success, looks fairly balanced over the long haul. You've got Clemson and FSU on one side and Miami, Pitt, VA Tech and GA Tech on the other side. Pitt has obviously taken a bit of a nose dive, but any of VA Tech, Miami or GA Tech has the ability to become strong within 3-5 years. As much as I want to defend the Big Ten West, I just don't see that as being the case, so I agree, they probably need to move one of the big three programs over to the same side with Iowa, Wisconsin and Nebraska.
 
The Big Ten should let in two more games to go to a 16 team league, but only after securing an automatic bid to the playoff for its conference champion (which will happen soon). Then play a 12 game conference schedule. Quit playing Moo U., Incarnate Word and the idiots from the MAC. We gain absolutely nothing from playing Iowa State.

The top two teams in the standings play off for the conference championship. Get rid of the East and West divisions; you don't need them.

Your intersectional games against the other conferences happen in the bowl games.

It's gonna happen in the next 3 to 5 years.
 
I like the division set up and I think Delaney should leave it alone. Northwestern had earned their spot in the BTC, granted it wasn't an ideal TV matchup but I think it's good for the conference overall.
 
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