Ryan Boyle Leaving Hawkeyes

[Hawkfnntn]

I completely understand why kids want to transfer and play somewhere else. On the other hand, sometimes historical opportunities are missed when a kid transfers. One that immediately comes to mind is Jake Christiansen. In Jake's junior year (2008) he is beaten out by Ricki Stanzi, and transfers. He would have been #2 QB in 2009, Iowa's great Orange Bowl team. In the 10th game of that season, Stanzi went down with a severe injury against NW. Jake would have been #2, and possibly would have led that team to a VICTORY against Northwestern, which would have secured a Big Ten regular season title. Since he transferred, a very inexperienced QB (Vandenberg) was thrust into the game, and Iowa lost. If Jake had remained patient and stays, who knows how that season would have panned out (Jake would have started the game the next week against Ohio State as well). What these kids fail to see is that #2 at a Power 5 conference team means that you are ONE PLAY from being #1. Injuries happen to QBs all the time in the Big Ten. NW's QB went down in the bowl game, and the #2 led them to victory (a senior by the way, who patiently waited for his chance).

Yup all true yet it's just such an individual thing. Not every kid values the same things the same way. Those that value PT above all aren't any more right or wrong then those that don't. It just is what it is. Coaches can only cross the roads when they come to it. They have to try balancing and guessing at how their depth chart decisions will impact them not only that season but the next. To say that coaching has changed during KFs tenure some would be an understatement.

 

[RobHowe]

Iowa's top target in the '19 Class, Max Duggan from Council Bluffs, is a dual-threat. He spins it really well but to not utilize what he can do with his legs would be missing out on a key part of his skill set.

 

[Hawkfnntn]

Iowa's top target in the '19 Class, Max Duggan from Council Bluffs, is a dual-threat. He spins it really well but to not utilize what he can do with his legs would be missing out on a key part of his skill set.

We'll have our hands full trying to get him He's got lot's of options OSU's offered. Nebraska had already offered prior to Frost. I can't see him not wanting him. Although they did just get a highly rated duel threat kid from CA. If he plays early (lot's of hype around him suggest he might) maybe going to NE wouldn't be high on Duggans list. KOK will have his hands full trying to land him

 

[BVHawk95]

There's no reason you can't have a general, pro-style offense yet mix in a few RPO packages in there.

I don't entirely disagree, but I think it becomes pretty easy for defenses to read which is which when the RPO game doesn't schematically match the rest of your offense.

 

[HuckFinn]

The fact that they probably won't or don't want to is the definition of stupidity in the modern college game.

Brad Banks says hello!

 

[ChosenChildren]

Beathard was an extremely effective dual threat QB in 2015

 

[MoseSchrute]

Brad Banks says hello!

Yeah, one guy 16 years ago. Too bad they didn't get more qb's like him.

 

[Iowa Tex]

That makes the most sense. Good bad or indifferent I can see why they'd be doing it that way. I'm sure a lot of eyes will be interested to see how the two other QBs look this spring. Even though Stanleys got 2 more years where I doubt he's unseated for the gig it's just highly unlikely he'll stay healthy enough to take every meaningful snap between now and then. Mansells HS tape from what I remember was pretty darn impressive I thought. Yet Petras is big has a gun and put up video game numbers at a pretty good level of HS play. It's a good situation to be in for BF, KOK and staff.

Don’t let HS #s fool you. Mansell’s #’s were deceiving. I’m from his area. Mansell played at the top level in Texas at an obscure school that was identical to Iowa in terms of receiver skill. 5 games he didn’t even finish the 3rd quarter due to being up by so much and he still threw for over 2k yds and ran for over 1k yds.
I think KoK has a beautiful situation with versatility in these 3 kids. Of course being from Texas I’m slightly biased....

 

[tksirius]

Don’t let HS #s fool you. Mansell’s #’s were deceiving. I’m from his area. Mansell played at the top level in Texas at an obscure school that was identical to Iowa in terms of receiver skill. 5 games he didn’t even finish the 3rd quarter due to being up by so much and he still threw for over 2k yds and ran for over 1k yds.
I think KoK has a beautiful situation with versatility in these 3 kids. Of course being from Texas I’m slightly biased....

So, you're saying we're going to relive the Stanzi/Christensen scenario?

 

[Iowa Tex]

So, you're saying we're going to relive the Stanzi/Christensen scenario?

You never know.

 

[smitharooney]

This entire board is nothing but people's opinions. Mine is that Petras is better than Mansell, fits Iowa's system better, and due to Mansell being sandwiched in between Stanley and Petras he won't be a starting QB. Feel free to disagree.

Exactly which is why I felt Banks should have been a two year starter . His junior year was a waste

 

[smitharooney]

Since when is 6’5” cookie cutter Iowa? I think Stanley’s the first one that big. Putting a lot of stock in a kid who hasn’t seen Big 10 talent and played at a lower level Cali school. He may have beat Goff’s records but Goff didn’t walk right in and play either. Don’t anoint him yet.

Wasn’t Chandler a beast of a man?

 

[BVHawk95]

Wasn’t Chandler a beast of a man?

6'7" and 260lbs, and moved surprisingly well. Wasn't a "true" dual threat, but he made plays with his legs.

The thing about Banks is while he is definitely the best runner we've had as a QB, he was still a passer first, and that's where he made his money, so to speak. Go back and watch the highlights from that season, and the announcers talk about how great of a decision-maker Banks was, and how well he took care of the ball. I believe he had the highest passer rating in the country that season.

So yes, I'd love a QB who can make plays with their feet, but not at the cost of making them with their arm, since Iowa's offensive philosophy is catered entirely to the latter. which is unfortunately a real trade-off with most dual-threat QB's (and the one's that aren't deficient are usually some of the highest rated players in the country).