Rudock is Gone

I still think this is just a rumor to give him the upper hand in the Spring Practice and Fall Practice competitions for the starting job.
 
thetrza said:
I still think this is just a rumor to give him the upper hand in the Spring Practice and Fall Practice competitions for the starting job.
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Well spring practice at the least. If he is still here for fall practice I think we know this rumor is false.
 
Its like Beathard does that interview in Nashville on the radio, then he gets named the starter. So now Rudock gets this article on a website saying he is going to Michigan, all to make Ferentz notice he is still there.
 
Good. Rudock trots off the field and holds his head. He does not command respect and does not make the players around him any better. The Rudock vs CJB drama can finally come to an end.

Watching this garbage for three years has really sucked as well. The Rudock/Vandenberg and Weisman combo was a travesty. I'm excited for the change! Go HAWKS!!!!!!
 
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LoyalSon said:
As I recall, CJB (or his father) hinted before the bowl game that he might transfer if things didn't start going his way. The threat worked. Ferentz took the unusual step of naming him the starter for next fall in January. I'm not judging what CJB (or his father) did, and I'll be in the stands cheering for him this fall, but don't pretend he is "more of a Hawkeye" because Kirk settled on him instead of JR. If Kirk had said he was sticking with JR, CJB would be gone by now also.
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As I recall, CJB (and dad) mentioned in the press their desire to leave Iowa if they didn't get more playing time.. BEFORE THE SLAYER BOWL GAME. If Jake leaves for Michigan it will have been 1 week before spring practice. Who's leaving Iowa in the lurch if Jake leaves, now? Jake. CJ gave the program time to recover with his absence. Go back to studying that freshman library class...
 
The point here is that Kirk has handled the QB situation poorly for the past 2 years pure and simple.
 
seepig said:
The point here is that Kirk has handled the QB situation poorly for the past 2 years pure and simple.
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We've all done a good job of pointing out how poorly Ferentz has handled the QB job the past year.

Question - How should he have dealt with it so that he's applauded for how well he handled it? My guess is the answer is dependent on who one thinks should have been the starter.
 
Over the past eight years, over 40% of all 4 or 5 star quarterbacks have transferred, not including any more transfers from the 2013 class.
 
thetrza said:
Over the past eight years, over 40% of all 4 or 5 star quarterbacks have transferred, not including any more transfers from the 2013 class.
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Is that really true? My gosh...if you are not putting us on, this is truly an astounding stat. But, I have always been accused, rightfully so, if being naive.
 
I did not do the research, but 11 of the top 15 quarterback recruits of 2010 (per ESPN rankings) transferred, along with 8 of the top 12 of 2012 (with another year of potential transfers for them) in an interesting article:
Pursuing a transfer quarterback is overtly aspirational. For a team that has designs on a championship, as Werner’s does, it can forge a clearer path by securing its own highly improbable version of Newton or Wilson to elevate the entire team to his level. Less ambitious outfits would do well to find someone who can hold down the job for a year or two before the rebuilding cycle resets.

Ultimately, transfers often fail to crack the starting lineup at their new schools or struggle to keep the job if they win it. The Russell Wilsons of the world are far more rare than the free-agent quarterbacks who too often turn out to be just like the mediocrities they were recruited to replace: ordinary, obscure, just passing through. But that’s not stopping players and coaches from trying to make the second act count more than the first. In the beginning, every new face is a potential exception, and every competition is energized by the unknown. Eventually, that optimism may run headlong into reality. In the meantime, though, anything seems possible.
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http://grantland.com/the-triangle/college-football-quarterback-transfers-free-agency/

The article uses ESPN rankings, which don't include our favorite Razorback Tight End who was a four star recruit from Iowa City who wanted to play quarterback at one point.
 
INTIMIDATORHawk said:
For those of us clamoring all last season for CJB, we finally have our wish and there is no going back. No chance for Rudock to reemerge
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I get your point but I want all of these second guessers to stop and think about 'THERE IS NO GOING BACK'.

What? Going back to what? The program that lost at home to 2-10 ISU, the one that needed a fourth quarter miracle to beat a bad MAC team in Ball St., the one whipped by Minnesota, the one that could not finish off Nebraska. The leader of the offense that threw 55 passes to a mass 250 yds. The one that threw a game deciding pick 6 to lose the NIU & Maryland games? Is that what we want to go back to?

Look I wish him the best and we have had far worse QB's than Jake. He was not responsible for all of our futility in this program but NO RISK, NO REWARD folks. Roll the dice and see what we can get with CJ. Is it really going to be worse than the barely average result with one of the softest schedules we have ever had?
 
homes said:
We've all done a good job of pointing out how poorly Ferentz has handled the QB job the past year.

Question - How should he have dealt with it so that he's applauded for how well he handled it? My guess is the answer is dependent on who one thinks should have been the starter.
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Your right on the money. I would just add that if who he picked would have played really well and they won more games would have as well. But that's what he was looking for and it never materialized....

What he did with the playing time though had no rhyme or reason to it to me. He'd give Beathard just a series here and there. Regardless of whom was your favorite the way they tried to split their reps just made little sense and didn't allow either to really have a shot at succeeding. I summed it up to it was the classic case of if you have 2 you have none...
 
homes said:
We've all done a good job of pointing out how poorly Ferentz has handled the QB job the past year.

Question - How should he have dealt with it so that he's applauded for how well he handled it? My guess is the answer is dependent on who one thinks should have been the starter.
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I think the sluggishness of the offense in the Ball St game was a time to jump start the offense with CJB. Was that the game CJ had that great long TD to the skinny speedster overturned.

Sluggish 2nd half of the ISU game.

How about during the 11-12 straight poor possessions in the Maryland game, especially after CJ did very well on the road against Pitt and Purdue.

How about KF using him more against Wisky and especially Nebby when we had 5 straight 3 and outs in the 2nd half with a big lead, we had the lead. And Jake had already had two dreaded KF turnovers in the first quarter alone, the hawks should have beat Nebby by 4 TDs that day.

How about much earlier in the Minny game.

Is that enough evidence for you that KF is stubborn, wont take a chance with a proven QB. CJ proved enough to my eyes in the Pitt and Purdue games to give him more time.

My gawd he led a couple beautiful drives against the Illni, one for a quick strike and one for a kneel down IIRC.
 
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Your right on the money. I would just add that if who he picked would have played really well and they won more games would have as well. But that's what he was looking for and it never materialized....

What he did with the playing time though had no rhyme or reason to it to me. He'd give Beathard just a series here and there. Regardless of whom was your favorite the way they tried to split their reps just made little sense and didn't allow either to really have a shot at succeeding. I summed it up to it was the classic case of if you have 2 you have none...
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I somewhat disagree with that in Iowa's case last year. Jake was a decent QB who could be mostly counted on starting a game with scripted plays and packages to do a good job. CJ proved in a few early games to be a great reliever so I just posted 5-6 times CJ should have got more time and had a chance to rev up the offense.

and CJ clearly outplayed Jake in the bowl game with his quicker release, more accurate throws, and running and scrambling ability.
 
I saw a headline on yahoo sports yesterday about a Jake Rudock visit to Michigan. Not sure if it is just an informational type visit or what.
 
I like or did not like this quote from a yahoo sports article:

"Michigan coach Jim Harbaugh and Boise State coach Bryan Harsin are both "quarterback guys." Either way, Rudock will be playing in a style of offense that should be more aggressive than the one he played in at Iowa. "

Everyone knows we dont play aggressive, it would be interesting to see what Jake might do with an offense that gets receivers very open and on the run.
 
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I hope that many of the contributors to this site are right in their high praise for CJ. I am not so sure I like the hard words many have had for JR. If CJ does not do well, my guess is that Ferentz and his "system" will take the blame, which may or may not be the truth of the matter.

In short, I am 100% behind CJ; I would also say that we are faced with breaking in a relatively new QB next Fall who has not been tested by the pressure of being the #1 guy over the long haul of a brutal schedule. That will be a daunting task.

I sure hope he does not go from savior/hero to goat in short order. I have seen that drama play out before.
 
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