Rob Howe explains his side of the DJK deal

Every reporter wants to stir up **** and try to break some national scandal. The local media has tried to knock Kirk down every since 2002. They have tried with several different things but because Kirk isn't doing anything malicious or covering anything up, there is never any fire behind the made up smoke.
 
DwayneTwill said:
Come on. Seriously.
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Ok, I admit that sounded more conspiracy theory than I intended. Just saying when a player (or players) does something wrong you can bet there will be an article concerning what Ferentz knew, is there a lack of control, and things of that nature.

I have no problems with reporters but be a journalist, find some facts and report it. Report the story don't create the story.
 
Why does the type of reaction one would get matter to whether one asks the question? Maybe you aren't saying he should or shouldn't have asked the question. No doubt some/many think he shouldn't have.

It is not his job to automatically think KF is God and therefore infallible in this instance. Even if he honestly thinks KF isn't doing this, it is his job to look into it. He gave KF a chance to go on the record after DJK made an accusation. There is nothing wrong with what he did.

There are many instances that a coach has done just what DJK is accusing KF of. Just because KF is who he is does not mean the question should simply not be asked. It has to be asked and it should be asked in a respectful manner, which I believe it was. The fact that KF came out later and sought out a chance to tell Rob in a forum with other media members (I believe that is what happened) is unprofessional on KF's part.
 
You are funny, DodgerHawki.

Newsflash!!! Getting DJK's side of the story is by definition getting one side of it. It doesn't mean there are not others who have something to say. But that was ONE SIDE of the story, the side belonging to DJK.

How dense does one have to be to not understand that? Some of you guys just think the media's job in Iowa is to kiss the ground that KF walks on. If the story would be negative to Iowa it should not be covered.

Get real.
 
Thawki said:
Newsflash!!! Getting DJK's side of the story is by definition getting one side of it. It doesn't mean there are not others who have something to say. But that was ONE SIDE of the story, the side belonging to DJK.How dense does one have to be to not understand that? Some of you guys just think the media's job in Iowa is to kiss the ground that KF walks on. If the story would be negative to Iowa it should not be covered.Get real.
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I don't have a problem with reporters asking tough questions and agree that a lot of the pressers are full of the same boring questions. That said we are talking about DJK calling, emailing or texting Rob Howe to basically say KF is a ***** who kept me from getting a shot at the NFL. Howe than makes ONE phone call to DJK's agent to get a comment, after not getting a call back he brings it up in a weekly presser after a bad lose to an instate rival. The cherry on top is DJK throwing Howe under the bus by tweeting its not him its the Media that is keeping the story going.

Yeah I don't see why anybody would have a problem with that especially KF. Wrong time, wrong place, and really bad journalism for not going to the people that would actually know the reason why DJK didn't get a shot like maybe contacting NFL GM's that would be able to I don't know actually know the answer to the question Howe was so eager to get.
 
RE: the timing of Rob's questions.... he tried for a few weeks to get the questions in, but the On the Side portions have been minimized and he hasn't been able to. So that's why he asked during the main presser.

He's not looking to garner attention.
He's not going to get put in a corner by the U of I.
He asked sources for info and the last tidbit needed to come from KF.

I don't see anything wrong with this.
 
It's funny how people always want the media to push for answers from Coach Ferentz, and when it happens they throw stones at said reporter.
 
Haven't read the thread, but I will say this.

Ferentz's bad luck is borderline maddening. Most of us would agree KF's a great guy who has more integrity than 99.9% of all cfb coaches. Yet only recently there's been the freak rhabdo fiasco, libertines getting DUIs and arrested, and the whole Everson/Satterfield sideshow. So ain't it great that Rob Howe could go out of his way to damage coach's reputation just a little more? At the worst time possible to boot! With bush league recruiters like Dantonio hanging on to every negative press clipping that comes his way, this will inevitably have some adverse effect down the road.
 
storminspank said:
It's funny how people always want the media to push for answers from Coach Ferentz, and when it happens they throw stones at said reporter.
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Answers to questions we care about. No one gives a toss about DJK and his drama queen antics, and especially not 72 hours after a devastating loss.
 
Howler said:
Answers to questions we care about. No one gives a toss about DJK and his drama queen antics, and especially not 72 hours after a devastating loss.
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I know a lot of people want to know about DJK and why he didn't get into a camp. A lot of people.

Timing was bad, yes. But that's been explained already.
 
This missing piece in all of this is that Howe never bothered to get anyone on record from the NFL saying the Iowa coaching staff steered them clear of DJK. And the bottom line is this ... if the NFL wanted DJK ... then DJK would be in the NFL. There are plenty of players with questionable backgrounds playing on Sundays ... So I highly doubt DJK is sitting home on Sundays because of something Kirk or one of his assistants may have said.

I think Howe should have did a little more digging and had a little more ammunition before he approached Kirk with the subject ...
 
To me, the whole key is DJK's agent not returning Howe's calls. That should have been a screaming red flag to Howe. Here is a representative of DJK who should have been his biggest advocate,which directly affects his own income,and he does not bother to defend DJK with a simple phone call?

Howe should have pursued the agent more vigorously before throwing this speculation at KF in a public forum. I suspect the agent did not want to respond to Howe because it was not true and he did not want to **** off DJK by refuting his account. Maybe the agent blamed KF for not getting DJK a look to get himself off the hook.

Howe fumbled this one badly and it will cost him down the road. I suspect he is dead to KF now. Hayden would have had him killed.
 
I think Howe should lose any and all access to the coaching staff and players after this stunt. The NFL takes guys who shoot people, themselves, sell and take drugs, beat women up, run dog fighting rings, gamble, fight with teammates, coaches, etc. Is Howe really dumb enough to think Kirk Ferentz has that much sway with the entire league? Damn near every player from the U the past 30 years has had some sordid past, yet still found their way on a NFL roster.

This was a bush league hit piece by Howe. Nobody cares about this story unless you are some Twitter junkie hitting up DJK every 20 minutes to get the latest rumor from a delusional, troubled dude.
 
Asking that "question" was really implying guilt on KF for those actions. That damages the Hawk FB program and recruiting. Next week I suppose Howe will ask a question about all the transfers due to rhabdo.

The only person the Hawk FB staff should "blackball" is Rob Howe and his pathetic, muckraker, rumor-mongering agenda to hurt Iowa's football program.
 
storminspank said:
I know a lot of people want to know about DJK and why he didn't get into a camp. A lot of people.

Timing was bad, yes. But that's been explained already.
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Your an idiot. There is no reason to ask anything about DJK. He is not in the Iowa program anymore. Right now it needs to be about this team.

Also, all that hack job Howe did was get a call from DJK spewing at the mouth about Kirk black listing him. So Howe makes one call to his agent and gets nothing back, so he decides to confront Kirk. Kirk is not going to say anything in that setting about it. That setting should be about the loss and this years team and how they move forward and correct their mistakes.

If Howe really wanted to get Kirks side of the story, there should have been a better time and place for it. But instead of trying to get to him professionally, Howe throws out the question in a way that questions Kirk's integrity. He is not professional in any sense of the word, just cause he is your buddy doesnt make it so either.

Edit: It also isnt just the timing, its the setting in which the question was asked. That should have been a one on one setting.
 
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Investigative journalism is more than using the information from DJK, leaving a message on an agent's voicemail and asking DJK's former head coach to respond to DJK's accusations. Read the piece written about Miami's problems with Shapiro, that's investigative journalism - no questions asked at a public press conference.

The need to get info out there first is more important than any other aspect of journalism these days.
 
storminspank said:
RE: the timing of Rob's questions.... he tried for a few weeks to get the questions in, but the On the Side portions have been minimized and he hasn't been able to. So that's why he asked during the main presser.

He's not looking to garner attention.
He's not going to get put in a corner by the U of I.
He asked sources for info and the last tidbit needed to come from KF.

I don't see anything wrong with this.
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Um, really? the last tidbit shoud have been an nfl source. Like i said I am a huge fan of Rob but you sticking up for him isnt really helping his cause and frankly making it worse. Rob made a mistake by asking it n the manner and timeframe he did, move on.
 
storminspank said:
It's funny how people always want the media to push for answers from Coach Ferentz, and when it happens they throw stones at said reporter.
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You have lost your freaking mind. Are you seriously going this route man? If you cannot figure out the difference of time management and game decisions compared to grilling a coach on a player that was KICKED OFF the team from a season ago you really have lost me. Rob can defned himself and has...you sticking up for him has gone far over board and is making you look silly.
 
iahawk20 said:
You have lost your freaking mind. Are you seriously going this route man? If you cannot figure out the difference of time management and game decisions compared to grilling a coach on a player that was KICKED OFF the team from a season ago you really have lost me. Rob can defned himself and has...you sticking up for him has gone far over board and is making you look silly.
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Agreed, both Jon and Spank have looked silly in defending Rob on this one.
 
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