Joshbrown
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It really says a lot about you that you hate everyone here and yet have this compulsion to read the thoughts of everyone you hate. Sadly, you're not smart enough to figure out what it says about you.
Rob How many current players were committed to other teams?
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It really says a lot about you that you hate everyone here and yet have this compulsion to read the thoughts of everyone you hate. Sadly, you're not smart enough to figure out what it says about you.
GotTimDodge
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Yes. It's happened a whole one time under KF.
deanvogs
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Oh, rigggghhhhtttt. An employer is going to say, not problem since you were looking "on your own time" we don't care that you are out actively seeking another job.
Apples and oranges. Do you "hold" positions in your company for nearly a year for a certain employee? If so and it is forbidden by some archaic entity that you can't sign a contract right then, do you think your policy would be for you to promise them the job and quit making offers to other qualified employees, while they continue to shop for a different job?
deanvogs
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Or you can say it has happened 100% of the time. 1 kid took an official visit and that kid he gone.
HIgdon promised Iowa it wouldn't make a difference, he was just trying to make people around him happy, he was still 100% Hawkeye. Well guess what, that official visit is a THE reason he became a Wolverine.
What the coaches realize that poster on here refuse to open their eyes to is official visit are very convincing for recruits. They have to battle and battle and battle for every verbal commit until Feb signing day. Other schools are on the phone, on twitter, coaches going to their schools, coaches talking to their parents, and on and on and on trying to get these kids to take an official visit to their school. Why add one more layer of competition to it by making it very easy on them to take a official visit which is everys schools best and most powerful recruiting pitch? The dirty secret is competing schools have about a 1% chance of flipping a kid if they can't even get them to take an official visit. Yet if they take a visit they have a way better chance of signing them. Why do you think Iowa coaches always says they have a great shot at getting a kid if they can get them to visit?
lightning1
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Lol. Rob doesn't want any part of this! I don't blame him.
GotTimDodge
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You're right. But you're kind of going off on a tangent.
Let me clarify myself again, and this has nothing to do with Eno anymore:
If Branch, or any other schools verbal commit, visits IC on a stealth visit, do we still recruit the kid?
Does Iowa even make an effort to verify the visit was OKed by whatever school kid has a verbal with?
If Iowa doesn''t, how does that NOT concern you?
If Iowa doesn't, they pretty much lose any credibility to claiming doing things "honorable" and "the right way".
RobHowe
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Actually, the interaction on this message board is pretty standard. People like to argue and debate.
As to the question in the OP, I'm to tired to look it up. Off the top of my head...
Miles Taylor (GA Tech)
Desmond King (Ball St.)
Ben Niemann (NIU)
LeShun Daniels (Boston College)
Akrum Wadley (Temple)
Shaun Beyer (NDSU)
C.J. Beathard (Ole Miss)
Tyler Wiegers (Rutgers)
Jonathan Parker (Tulsa)
Angelo Garbutt (Oregon State)
Amani Jones (Illinois)
Garret Jansen (Cincinnati)
Spencer Williams (Western Michigan)
Nate Vejvoda (Miami of Ohio)
Anthony Nelson (Iowa State)
Not sure you can consider all Iowa flips. For instance, Ole Miss encouraged Beathard to look around after coaching change. I think the same thing happened with Jansen and Cincy.
As to the question in the OP, I'm to tired to look it up. Off the top of my head...
Miles Taylor (GA Tech)
Desmond King (Ball St.)
Ben Niemann (NIU)
LeShun Daniels (Boston College)
Akrum Wadley (Temple)
Shaun Beyer (NDSU)
C.J. Beathard (Ole Miss)
Tyler Wiegers (Rutgers)
Jonathan Parker (Tulsa)
Angelo Garbutt (Oregon State)
Amani Jones (Illinois)
Garret Jansen (Cincinnati)
Spencer Williams (Western Michigan)
Nate Vejvoda (Miami of Ohio)
Anthony Nelson (Iowa State)
Not sure you can consider all Iowa flips. For instance, Ole Miss encouraged Beathard to look around after coaching change. I think the same thing happened with Jansen and Cincy.
deanvogs
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Why wouldn't Iowa recruit other committed kids? Other staffs are recruiting all of our verbal commits clear up to signing day. You don't actually think that our verbals aren't getting recruited do you? Wisconsin made a HUGE push for Stanley, and wanted him to visit desperately. Lattimore got a big push from MSU and they wanted him to visit as well. Minnesota and Nebraska recruited Fant up to the end both wanting visits. Why do posters want the staff to watch these kids go on visits to those schools? The official is the best pitch a school can make, why let those schools get that pitch in?
Oh and also who says there is anything "honorable" at all about recruiting?
I think a lot of us just think it's hypocritical to send out letters saying you can't visit other schools and then the rumors of pulling offers because of taking other visits but then we try to poach kids that are committed to other schools. Yes I know you will say Eno didn't get his offer pulled because he took visits even though you don't know but many people have said Calloway's offer has been pulled for visiting other schools. Just doesn't make sense
deanvogs
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I think it is hypocritical to only NOW get all butt hurt over the Iowa policy. It has been this way for years, they have always gone after other verbal commits. Only now are posters having a hissy fit about "hypocritical policies". Nobody cared before when Iowa flipped players before.
Oh, what outlet reported that Calloway's offer is pulled? If it is pulled was it pulled IMMEDIATELY after Calloway when to the Texas vs ND game the opening weekend of college football? Was his offer pulled after he visited Arkansas or after Nebraska?
Rob said it early in this whole thing. It was be very unlike Iowa to pull an offer SOLELY for a visit. Yes they have that policy, but Iowa has "looked the other way" on occasions in the past. On the other hand Iowa does (smartly and correctly) use pressure and leverage to keep verbals from taking other visits. This is smart because other schools are recruiting our Verbals very, very aggressively, and the one card we do hold in our hand is they say they want to come to Iowa. Well you use that to keep them off other campus, it is only smart recruiting. And don't we want our coaches to be aggressive and do what they can to bring in the players they think are good players?
You said we pull offers if they visit other schools and you seem to know what's going on here
"You do know that Iowa tells it's commits that if they visit other schools they will pull the offer, right? That is the reason, Eno lied to them, took two visits and the staff wasn't having it. They don't think they can trust him, so they cut bait now instead of getting "Higdon'd" at the last minute."
http://hawkeyenation.com/forum/threads/heres-what-i-wrote-on-eno.76410/#post-1541261
Hopefully not
trj
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docholihawk
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What makes you think it's 40 year olds.
deanvogs
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Nope, I'm done with Vin, errrr I mean 56. Iowa does have a policy of "no visits" and it works well to keep 99% of kids from taking them. There are certainly examples of exceptions though with Iowa. Higdon went to Michigan, Eno took a Visit to Mizzu, Calloway to Texas, Nebraska and Arkansas. Fant unoffically visited Nebraska, but didn't officially visit Minnesota, pretty sure Ott visited Nebraska as a Iowa Verbal, but don't know if that was an official or just a visit. I'm sure there have been others as well. As Rob said early on, he would be surprised if an offer was pulled because of a visit, and I agree with Rob on that.
