remember @Mich St in '08......

hawkfaninTX

hawkfaninTX

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we go for it on 4th & 1 instead of kicking a game tying FG, with the future Doak Walker winner and one of the best OLine's in Recent Iowa memory.

think this game was in KF's mind?

we were all on the other side of the argument back in '08- we are all hipocrits if you were screaming for KF to go for it. Iowa state had missed two FG's! even if we hadn't stopped them in 3 quarters that was the right play! I'd Want him to do it again!

in regulation, now that is a horse of a different color. we should have tried for it, but with that being said- I agree with a poster in another thread that we were scared of three incompletions and god forbid a pick! this is where a complement back i.e. Johnson, would be great for an option next to JVB in shotgun.
 


I agreed with the decision to go for it back in '08, but I did NOT agree with the play they called to get it.

With whatever call KF made on Saturday he was going to be questioned. Had the D got a turnover or ISU missed the FG and Iowa had won, there would be plenty of Iowa fans saying that we got lucky and he should have gone for it. Had he gone for it and failed, well, we all know what would have happened there. Had he gone for it and succeeded, there would be those saying that by going for it he showed no confidence in the D's ability to step up and stop ISU. I'm still in the he should have gone for it camp. QB sneak right behind Ferentz. And yes, I did not feel the D was going to be able to stop ISU and that our only hope was that they fumbled.
 
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I thought it was a good strategy call and a good playcall. FB went the wrong way, otherwise that play easily picks up the first and maybe goes to paydirt. Sucks, but sometimes I think you do the right thing and get burnt. That was one of those times.
 


I was all on board for going for it on 4th and 1 against MSU. If I recall correctly people were a bit miffed on that series because we came out shotgun and passed on 3rd and 1 (double whammy since we never, ever, ever run out of shotgun) .
 


'09 vs OSU only applies to not going for the win in regulation when in both scenarios we are deep in our own territory.

the scenario I was referencing was when we are in FG range we decided to opt out of a field goal try in '08. we had the future Doak walker winner in our backfield, yes it was a missed block by the FB, but my point is I think that ferentz chose a FG this time because it was the better play, statistically I would take ISU lining up for a game tying FG. I think he was asking the defense to do the dirty work (as usual) and hope for a stop. because ISU already missed two FG's earlier in the game. a FG at that point STATISTICALLY was the better play.
 


Pretty poor comparison. We were not in an offensive shootout with a poor defense. We had a defense stocked with NFL players that year. That would have been a decent time to kick it.

But either way, just because it failed once, you never, ever, ever try it again, under any circumstances? Are you freaking kidding?

That is some seriously intellectually bankrupt logic going on there.
 


Oh, by the way, go ahead and add me to that list of people that don't think KF could ever possibly win a national title. And please bold it.

Thx
 


I think we are forgetting something important in the MSU 08 game. we had no confidence in our FG team. if we did, we should have kicked a FG on the 1st 4th down in the 4th quarter. 47 was too long for our kickers at that time. as for the 2nd 4th, I would have been fine either way.

Our D had kept Ringer to 3.6 ypc, and our D had only been on the field for 3 minutes of the 12 minutes that had passed in the 4th (or 11.5 minutes of the 27 minutes in the 2nd half). Our D didn't have a bad day just not a great day. Our D could have gotten a stop that day. MSU punted 3 of the final 5 possesions (2nd half), 1 field goal, and 1 int.

ISU punted twice... in the 1st 17 minutes of play and that was it. ISU's 2nd half was 2 TDs, 2 missed field goals, and a fumble. We weren't going to stop ISU's Offense, they were going to have to make a mistake. His logic isn't correct in this situation. We had a better chance to win the game had ISU made those 2 field goals and forced Kirk's hand.
 


Kirk made the right call in 08 against MSU to go for it....just made the wrong the play call to execute it.

He often takes knees and eats the ball at the end of halves. 95-99% of the time that is his MO.

Also, rarely runs up the score......
 


I also agreed with going for it in 2008, and I also didn't like the play call.

So what the OP is saying is: since it didn't work once, never try it again?

That's just crazy. And even crazier....that might actually be what Kirk is really thinking.
 


HaydenHawk56 said:
Kirk made the right call in 08 against MSU to go for it....just made the wrong the play call to execute it.

He often takes knees and eats the ball at the end of halves. 95-99% of the time that is his MO.

Also, rarely runs up the score......
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He (and or KOK) made the right play call, but Leppert ran the wrong way. Pretty sure if the FB actually leads for SG, that's a first down and who knows past that.
 


83Hawk said:
I also agreed with going for it in 2008, and I also didn't like the play call.

So what the OP is saying is: since it didn't work once, never try it again?

That's just crazy. And even crazier....that might actually be what Kirk is really thinking.
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I was not saying I think this way, the last part of your post was my point!
 


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