Reality Check: Where Exactly is Iowa Basketball on the Improvement Meter

BBM...how can you disagree with Marble/White?



Basabe and May have been the two players on the roster who have maximized what they do really well. If Mel isn't hitting his 12-ft jumper, or scoring period, he isn't disappearing on the other end, or with his effort on the glass. May has accepted who his is and plays within himself, he rarely forces things and honestly, I wish the rest of the roster would look at these two players and take a look in the mirror and try and maximize what they individually do best and stick with it.

Junior and Senior who struggled when they were younger understanding their limitations and roles.

But, hey NO WAY should a younger player like White do the same!

Also, with respect to Marble, he has been bounced around positions so much, when did he have time to learn his "role?"
 
Disagree I see an Iowa team that gets scared and tight as the game us close at the end of regulation(every time). I don't see that changing, either you have players that can handle it when things get tight or you don't and right now Iowa doesn't at all. That is some on the coach but mostly on the players, either you got it or you don't....and right now Iowa still bottom feeder in B1G and are really lucky some of the teams below them didn't have key players this year or yikes it really would have been an ugly B1G season/

What an incredibly negative outlook. Had half the games we had late game leads where the other team hits a game winner/tier we win and comfortably set for the NCAA. This team is light years better than the one Fran took over.Problem is, he is in the toughest conference in the country. We are competing against the best teams in the country. we are getting better. All come back except May. We getting player in Uthoff that may be the best on the team from reports. I can't wait for next season. I have enjoyed this one.
 
What an incredibly negative outlook. Had half the games we had late game leads where the other team hits a game winner/tier we win and comfortably set for the NCAA. This team is light years better than the one Fran took over.Problem is, he is in the toughest conference in the country. We are competing against the best teams in the country. we are getting better. All come back except May. We getting player in Uthoff that may be the best on the team from reports. I can't wait for next season. I have enjoyed this one.

But only once instead of twice like its going to be.
 
Junior and Senior who struggled when they were younger understanding their limitations and roles.

But, hey NO WAY should a younger player like White do the same!

Also, with respect to Marble, he has been bounced around positions so much, when did he have time to learn his "role?"

Don't mistake understanding a player's role from a player understanding what aspects of the game they are best at...if a player doesn't know or is unwilling...how will that player be successful? There is a big difference...do what you do beat no matter what position or role a player is in.
 
After the disaster that was the embodiment of the Lickliter era, if someone had told you in three seasons the next coach would have us back to 20+ victories, the saner among us would be ecstatic. For you naysayers who doubt that progress has been made and the program is in the process of being turned around, you are either willfully blind or painfully ignorant.
 
After the disaster that was the embodiment of the Lickliter era, if someone had told you in three seasons the next coach would have us back to 20+ victories, the saner among us would be ecstatic. For you naysayers who doubt that progress has been made and the program is in the process of being turned around, you are either willfully blind or painfully ignorant.

I didn't envision so many really bad teams on the schedule and the B1G weakest conference schedule. I never envisioned a 20 win team losing to the last place ACC team and WSU on a neutral court.

It's sort of about perspective.
 
I didn't envision so many really bad teams on the schedule and the B1G weakest conference schedule. I never envisioned a 20 win team losing to the last place ACC team and WSU on a neutral court.

It's sort of about perspective.

Yep, an Illini fan's perspective vs. an Iowa fan's perspective
 
I didn't envision so many really bad teams on the schedule and the B1G weakest conference schedule. I never envisioned a 20 win team losing to the last place ACC team and WSU on a neutral court.

It's sort of about perspective.

WSU is a top 50 team that potentially could win the MoValley today.
I don't know what happened to VaTech this year, but that is a bad loss. Other than that the only "bad" losses were road B1G games where anything can happen. Just ask Michigan.
 
WSU is a top 50 team that potentially could win the MoValley today.
I don't know what happened to VaTech this year, but that is a bad loss. Other than that the only "bad" losses were road B1G games where anything can happen. Just ask Michigan.

I don't disagree. Also think the team is much improved on fundamentals. This season should have a * at the end of it and evaluated later after another season or 2.
 
I didn't envision so many really bad teams on the schedule and the B1G weakest conference schedule. I never envisioned a 20 win team losing to the last place ACC team and WSU on a neutral court.

It's sort of about perspective.

Trolls have that perspective.
 
After the disaster that was the embodiment of the Lickliter era, if someone had told you in three seasons the next coach would have us back to 20+ victories, the saner among us would be ecstatic. For you naysayers who doubt that progress has been made and the program is in the process of being turned around, you are either willfully blind or painfully ignorant.

Good post Lucky!
 
So here, I'll do a real positive/negative style breakdown like Illinihawk did.

Positives:

Vast overall defensive improvement over last season - going from 180th in the nation to 28th in the nation defense after losing our best perimeter defender is something that even the most optimistic fans could have predicted

Terrific 3 point defense -Went from 182nd in the nation to 11th in the nation in 3pt FG% defense

Woodbury's defense and aggressiveness: Woodbury has been better than I expected on the defensive end and has done a great job battling with B10 upper classmen in the paint all year, last year we consistently got destroyed inside

Improved Rebounding: Like our defense, our rebounding especially defensive rebounding has been vastly improved

Eric May: He's been terrific in all facets of the game this year, how someone could see a senior playing terrific as a negative is beyond me, you expect your upperclassmen to be leaders and May certainly has

Basabe: He's brought energy and rebounding every game this season, no more games where he seems disinterested, which were all too frequent last year

White's ability to get to the line: White has shown an a truly elite ability to get to the free throw line this year, he's 4th in the nation in FT rate and 10th in the nation in fouls drawn/40 mins, White's averaging 13/6 a game and we still have him for two more years

Gesell: He's been great as a freshman this year, a starter from day one and averaging almost 10 a game, he's had some big games and shown a really solid stroke

Play at Home: Iowa is 14-2 at home this year with the two losses coming by a total of 7 points to two top 10 teams while missing a major player in each of those games

Fan Excitement: Iowa's attendance is at its highest level since early in Alford's tenure, this team plays hard every night and the improvement is evident

Negatives:

Shooting: Iowa, as a whole, has been a very bad outside shooting team, 304th in the nation in 3pt FG%, the fact that we've shot as poor as we have and still been extremely competitive in all but one B10 game is very impressive though

Ogelsby: There's no way around it, he's had a terrible year offensively, shooting 26% from 3 is terrible no other way to look at it

Marble's play against B10 elite: Marble has struggled mightily against top tier B10 teams, whether some of that is due to being banged up or not he hasn't made the jump to All B10 player I hoped he would make this year, still a very solid B10 starter and I think the lack of other scoring threats has made it harder on him to get going in a lot of games

Woodbury's Offensive Development: I was very impressed with the offensive flashes we saw from Woodbury early in the year (especially against ISU) however, his offensive game has basically disappeared during almost all of the B10 season, he still looks rushed every time he gets the ball, I have no doubt he will improve over the next few years and the experience from this season will be very valuable

Lack of Signature Wins: We were oh so close in many games this year but just couldn't pull one out, it will keep us out of the tournament this year barring a major run in the BTT but it's not unexpected with how young of a team we are (301st in the nation in experience)

Overall: I'd give Iowa a solid B for this season, very close to a B+ if we had just pulled out one or two more games. Iowa is only losing one of their top 11 guys, the B10 is going to lose a lot of talent this year. The addition of a great shooter in Jok and a top 150 recruit who has had 2 seasons of practice and working out in B10 strength and conditioning programs should help us improve on offensive next year as well as the continued growth of our returning players, especially Gesell. Next year Iowa should be solidly in the tournament and finish in the upper division of the B10.
 
You have to bad of an attitude to be a coach.

I'm a terrific coach thank you very much. The best with the exception of Bill Self are very analytic and don't get caught up in emotional judgement.

They also usually don't kick and throw things to teach.
 
I'm a terrific coach thank you very much. The best with the exception of Bill Self are very analytic and don't get caught up in emotional judgement.

You're terrible at analytical thinking though, you're constantly wrong on stats. Like when you say Iowa is 4-3 against the B10 teams ranked 100-200 in the RPI.

Link to your record?
 

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