Re-Watched the Purdue Game

[Ree4]

I think we need to just run a QB sneak about 10x in a row until somebody stops it, seems to be our most successful/consistent play

 

[hwk23]

I think we need to just run a QB sneak about 10x in a row until somebody stops it, seems to be our most successful/consistent play

Stanley also had a designed QB run from the empty set that went for 9 yards. Stanley runs like a fullback or TE but there's more of a surprise element.

 

[Ree4]

Stanley also had a designed QB run from the empty set that went for 9 yards. Stanley runs like a fullback or TE but there's more of a surprise element.

Hahah that's the one where he trucked the safety with a spin move I think, pretty funny to watch

 

[Ree4]

When he does run the ball, I'd like to see him run with a little more anger, he's a big guy and if he's running full speed and puts his shoulder (left of course) into somebody, they will feel it

 

[skinnykilmer17]

When Hayden had the horses he would go for the jugular.

What Hayden was good at was adjusting his philosophy to the talent he had on his team. In our famous comeback 1981 season, he played close to the vest and relied on the defense and kicking game to carry the day. Hell, we threw seven (7) touchdown passes that season.

We were a high flying offense in 1985 with a strong passing attack, which carried the day when we needed fourth quarter points, which we frequently did.

Our third Rose bowl team in 1990 had decent but not outstanding wide receivers but we bludgeoned teams with the one two punch of Nick Bell and Tony Stewart in the backfield. Lew Montgomery was no slouch either.

Hayden even went through a stretch in the early nineties where he relied heavily on junior college players, like Mike White used to at Illinois. He ended up recruiting something like a dozen of them in two years.

You would never hear Hayden say "We are who we are, we do what we do"

His arguably most famous quote was of course "scratch where it itches."

You are the Jon Meacham of Hawkeye Nation, sir.

 

[skinnykilmer17]

You are the Jon Meacham of Hawkeye Nation, sir.

Wait!! You weren't aware Kurt Warner was in the Hall of Fame?!

I take it back!!

 

[Xerxes]

I think we need to just run a QB sneak about 10x in a row until somebody stops it, seems to be our most successful/consistent play

And this is the reason why I'll always wonder what this OL could do if Iowa just coached hat on hat blocking. Because it those short yardage situations when teams know exactly what 4 is going to do, they can't stop it.

Imagine what could happen on a 2nd & 2 or 3 when the D doesn't know if Iowa is going to run or pass?

 

[BigD]

Just curious. How can you judge play calling? It wasn't execution or ability?

At the end of the day who is ultimately responsible for both?

 

[Northside Hawk]

You are the Jon Meacham of Hawkeye Nation, sir.

This is only the stuff I post.

You should see the stuff I delete. It's like Prince's vault of unreleased music.

 

[uihawk82]

Thanks Nike.

I share the same "play calling" frustrations, but think of it more as a combination of frustrating play calling and play design. I know that sounds super armchair quarterback-ish... for me to say that about our "high level" coaching staff. But it's how I feel. Also, we can all agree it's difficult to categorize the difference between bad play calling and bad execution.

The most glaring example is 3rd Down and short (<5 yards) pass concepts that are short of the first down line. I think this happened 3 times. Two of which were similar looking pop pass concepts to Nico R, both blown up.

We've also had a complete lack of true "over the top" deep balls (meaning, over the middle). We're actually throwing perimeter go route / fade concepts, with some great success. But those seem to be pre-snap reads and Stanley drops it in the level 2, letting our guys (like B Smith) make a play on the ball. I wish we would implement more post/seam route concepts, with the goal of testing middle safety play. IMO, this would generally help to actually open up our run / play action foundation. Maybe the staff feels like this is a TE role within our offensive scheme. This year, we don't quite have the guys at TE to make that happen, so it's a missing piece of our offense. But they way teams are rolling into an 8 man run front, it feels like we could have great success getting our speedy slot guys involved in post/dig play action schemes. The success of sideline deep balls is great too though.

Good points about the deep middle ball which I have been harping on for years. In an earlier game this year they hit ISM for that 60 yardish TD down and skinny post just inside the right hash. And ISM made a great move and he has the speed to carry a safety with him. Then that opens up a hole over the Lbkrs about 20 yards downfield.

With routes like that a QB should be able to see in 2+ seconds if the deep man is going to be open and what the safety is doing, turning an running or playing up. You can throw the deep receiver open if the safety is not double teaming.

 

[smitharooney]

And this is the reason why I'll always wonder what this OL could do if Iowa just coached hat on hat blocking. Because it those short yardage situations when teams know exactly what 4 is going to do, they can't stop it.

Imagine what could happen on a 2nd & 2 or 3 when the D doesn't know if Iowa is going to run or pass?

From what I see we lack athleticism for zone blocking . Hat on hat betters suits this group . Why am adjustment to this hasn’t been tried with how abysmal our running game has been is beyond me

 

[ModebaSan]

How about Lute's post game presser.

Already frustrated with several late season close losses which cost him the B1G title, he now has a game stolen from him by an official who was in a hurry to get to the airport.

Among other things, he shouted that Bain belonged in jail.

I'm guessing that lightened his wallet, and may have helped grease his skid out of town.

The following year was Ed Hightower and Ted Valentine's first year in the league, Lute's last.

We didn't get many calls that season.

I remember that game because I threw my radio against the wall and broke it. That’s the maddest a basketball game has ever made me. I still would like to have one of those t-shirts with Bain’s effigy on it. I would wear it because it’s my first amendment right of free speech.

 

[Northside Hawk]

I remember that game because I threw my radio against the wall and broke it. That’s the maddest a basketball game has ever made me. I still would like to have one of those t-shirts with Bain’s effigy on it. I would wear it because it’s my first amendment right of free speech.

I was a junior in high school.

We had a rim and backboard attached to a garage in a back alley in our neighborhood, similar to how many of us played growing up. That rim was measured at eight feet eight inches off the ground.

I immediately went out to my neighbors back alley rim and rammed down an assortment of every dunk I could do on that son of a bitch.

 

[smitharooney]

ah you must be referring to the ones to ragaini?!?! In which case, that would be poor playcalling and i submit my humble tip of the cap to you. Cause those were pretty bad.

The fullback up the middle stuffed on a third and one still befuddles me. Purdue had their defense all stacked in the box especially on the interior . That play call had no chance

 

[Iceman]

Stanley also had a designed QB run from the empty set that went for 9 yards. Stanley runs like a fullback or TE but there's more of a surprise element.

Iowa needs to run QB a few times to keep Linebackers honest. Penn St QB only had 52 yds rushing against us....but it opened up things for Penn St in second half.

 

[HawkGold]

At the end of the day who is ultimately responsible for both?

Duh.... That said play calling is overated. The issue is the philosophy. I'm not sure Bama could move the ball with philosophy of KF this year.

 

[iloveyoularrystation]

The fullback up the middle stuffed on a third and one still befuddles me. Purdue had their defense all stacked in the box especially on the interior . That play call had no chance

I begin being befuddled the second you say a full back got the ball. Even more befuddled when you say they got the ball as the only option in the backfield when sargent, young, and goodson are healthy options on our team.
heck i'd rather see a qb sneak with the 7 foot tall 260 pound qb than a single run with a guy who is there to block.

 

[uihawk82]

The fullback up the middle stuffed on a third and one still befuddles me. Purdue had their defense all stacked in the box especially on the interior . That play call had no chance

That play has worked well over the last few years but teams are ready for it now.

 

[smitharooney]

I begin being befuddled the second you say a full back got the ball. Even more befuddled when you say they got the ball as the only option in the backfield when sargent, young, and goodson are healthy options on our team.
heck i'd rather see a qb sneak with the 7 foot tall 260 pound qb than a single run with a guy who is there to block.

Do we even run pitches for sweeps ? Seems like we always hand the ball off

 

[hawkfan2679]

That play has worked well over the last few years but teams are ready for it now.

I feel like they try to get too cute with those plays. Have WR's bunched to the right in an I formation, then motion to the RB out to the bunch to create a trips look...ideally, if it wasn't 3rd and 1, the defense would shift and it would/could create a numbers advantage inside to get the requisite yardage. But we try to dress it up so much that we almost try too hard...maybe I've been just watching too much Iowa football, but it's those times when you actually can call out what the play is going to be before they run it. There was another 3rd and short (or was it 4th and short?) in the game last weekend where we came out in our base formation, then traded a TE, then ran jet action, just so we could run a QB sneak. With the sneak, at least we got Stanley driving the back of the OL plus the FB comes up and can help too...with the FB dive (with the obvious precursors to the play), you don't get the extra body pushing towards first down yardage.