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okeefe4prez said:
, but I really think those are more attributable to the population trends and preferences in the region than anything the coaches can control. Wisconsin is a shell of itself, Nebraska is a shell of itself, Michigan State is a shell of itself, Northwestern is an utter tire fire, Minnesota is slightly better than recent history but not world beaters, Iowa State sucks, Illinois is getting a little better. If it was just Iowa falling off a cliff I would be more worried about Iowa and Ferentz, but this is clearly a regional trend and I don't have any idea of how to get around it short of some of the programs in the region folding so there is more talent concentration. Ohio State, Michigan and Notre Dame are the only teams in the traditional Big Ten footprint who have a snowballs' chance in hell of getting stars out of Florida, Georgia, Texas and California.
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Wisconsin has tried to mirror Iowa. No surprise. Nebby made huge mistakes. MN has never been solid. IL went through coaching carousels and they made several huge mistakes.

So W is going through one bad spell. You can't hide something like 300 total yards in 3 games in 5 years against MN, especially when the 66 came off a burying of OSU. It's easy to so "oh well", when that isn't the real issue. Challenging? Yes. The real issue...no.

Texas in part was lost due to the rise of Baylor, TCU, Houston etc. However, I would watch a young 8th grader work with his dad in our local field house.... That kid became a starter at Houston and was pretty darn good until too many concussions did him in. TCU's QB, is from the hotbed of Florida...right?
 
HawkGold said:
By saying, we need to update the recruiting plan to change to the current market. Basically the confrontation in general on about anything. Everything has pretty much been off base. The current rhetoric would be normal for about any year at any program. KF created quite an environment.
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I would be interested in getting their honest takes on the (apparent) 2 year hole in recruiting and development of o linemen, for example. Good thought.
 
racerhawk said:
I would be interested in getting their honest takes on the (apparent) 2 year hole in recruiting and development of o linemen, for example. Good thought.
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Their honest take is probably "we targeted these 8 guys, missed on 6, the two we got from our target list stunk and we didn't know they would stink but recruiting is part art, part science, and that's football. Snort. Chort. Pay me $7 million. No refunds."
 
racerhawk said:
I would be interested in getting their honest takes on the (apparent) 2 year hole in recruiting and development of o linemen, for example. Good thought.
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More interesting would be to hear an honest answer as to why higher rated recruits did not come to Iowa, or transfer out.
 
SCHawkeye2 said:
More interesting would be to hear an honest answer as to why higher rated recruits did not come to Iowa, or transfer out.
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What higher rated recruits did not come to Iowa? You need to document that we were in the race. Who were the guys who transferred out? Where did they go?
 
racerhawk said:
I think there has been some confrontation at this point. Perhaps some aren't satisfied with the lack of ongoing confrontation?

I personally think the biggest issue is a lack of talent. How are they going to say that to the media?
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Yeah. Let’s throw our players under the bus. That is a great recruiting tool. (I am not assuming that is what you meant)
 
HuckFinn said:
Yeah. Let’s throw our players under the bus. That is a great recruiting tool. (I am not assuming that is what you meant)
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We agree. I don't think a coach can easily say that to the media. I would personally be interested in their rationale, though.
 
SCHawkeye2 said:
More interesting would be to hear an honest answer as to why higher rated recruits did not come to Iowa, or transfer out.
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Maybe, with that, their rationale for not being more assertive in the transfer portal, given the obvious needs at WR and OL.
 
HuckFinn said:
You could not be more wrong.
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OK, not being argumentative with this now. Sports are about competition. EIU's qb (Reeder) who was a 2 year starter lost his job to a transfer name Jake C. Jake C lost his job to a guy name Ricki (of all names is kinda childish). Ricki did well. Jake did well. Reeder stayed and helped and is now an asst at UNI. Worked well for all involved (teams), but Reeder didn't keep his job losing it to JC who transferred in for 1 year. Reeder, who lost his job had pretty good numbers but didn't do as well as Jake.

Reading what you are saying, it seems you think in the situation above that EIU through allowing in a 1 year transfer threw Reeder under the bus and that would hurt EIU recruiting. Am I understanding this correctly?

This was all very public in east central IL. Talking about it doesn't change much.
 
Motigerhawk said:
Perception is reality. Maybe not your reality, but the person that made the statement, it is reality to them.

As I tell my students, my perception is your reality.
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I think that saying overly simplifies the concept. While I agree that we can have different realities based on our perceptions, I try to listen and learn from people who are knowledgable in given areas. Sometimes that's based on it being an area of expertise, which often results from experience and connections to the subject.

And, to be clear, I didn't specify who I felt had perceptions that didn't line up with reality in this thread. And I don't intend to. It makes it more interesting.
 
Boy, it sure sounds like he understands and knows what the F he's talking about.

I wonder more if it's just a bad run of situations with the roster, like the perfect bad formula happened with development. Iowa may have missed on some players, bad time for players leaving, injuries or not panning out. This along with somehow getting into a cycle with many young O-line at the exact same time.

I just think it's multiple factors playing into the bad O play.

This could be similar to Fran getting into a bad cycle with the roster with the guard play years ago. Just didn't have the right players and some didn't pan out and dealing with transfers or attrition. This happens to teams in college sports, ESPECIALLY developmental teams. They just can't plug-and-play players like Ohio St.
 
MelroseHawkins said:
Boy, it sure sounds like he understands and knows what the F he's talking about.

I wonder more if it's just a bad run of situations with the roster, like the perfect bad formula happened with development. Iowa may have missed on some players, bad time for players leaving, injuries or not panning out. This along with somehow getting into a cycle with many young O-line at the exact same time.

I just think it's multiple factors playing into the bad O play.

This could be similar to Fran getting into a bad cycle with the roster with the guard play years ago. Just didn't have the right players and some didn't pan out and dealing with transfers or attrition. This happens to teams in college sports, ESPECIALLY developmental teams. They just can't plug-and-play players like Ohio St.
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Even vaunted Ohio had problems on the o-line a few years ago because they didn't have enough guards and were running 4 tackles out there. It really does happen to everybody. But the difference is that if Ohio has one or even two mediocre linemen they can scheme around it against most of their opponents. Iowa does not have that luxury with the current lineup.
 
Perception's are what the are. What one believes. That is OK, of course. Facts and fictions are also definable.

Sadly, my “perception” is that we are living in a world of alternative facts and far too many falsehoods pretending to be truths. That is dangerous.
 
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racerhawk said:
I think there has been some confrontation at this point. Perhaps some aren't satisfied with the lack of ongoing confrontation?

I personally think the biggest issue is a lack of talent. How are they going to say that to the media?
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They can't say this to the media, to the parents, to the players. You can't undermine what you are attempting to build.
 
HuckFinn said:
Perception's are what the are. What one believes. That is OK, of course. Facts and fictions are also definable.

Sadly, my “perception” is that we are living in a world of alternative facts and far too many falsehoods pretending to be truths. That is dangerous.
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What is dangerous is not questioning so-called facts.
 
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