Projected 2012 starters
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whammer33024
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i've read people mentioning derby at DE but i don't recall reading anyone say DT
hawkfarmer
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Ok, but Clayborn came in at 6'3" 245 lbs? Should he have moved to LBer? He put on 40-50 pounds by the time he left? was that a mistake, should Iowa have left him at LBer?
superfan12
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Exactly.
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GoHawks24
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#smacks hand to forehead
Why is it so hard to understand? Because it's nearly impossible to decipher your posts and I don't even know where you're trying to go with all of this...
superfan12
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Wait a second, everyone just wait one second.
What are you trying to prove here herby? None of your posts make sense without something that you are trying to prove or explain.
What are you trying to prove here herby? None of your posts make sense without something that you are trying to prove or explain.
GoHawks24
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I am soooo ******* confused. We're the idiots though I guess, since we can't sift through his garbage posts to figure out what the hell he's trying to say or prove.
hawkfarmer
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No kidding. But my point was that 6'3" and 249 (or whatever he was
) is a good sized MLB. He put on about 40 lbs before he left.That would put Venckus at 6'4" 260, Ott at 6'4.5" at 275, and McMinn at 6'7" 260 lbs.
Why do I keep mentioning McMinn, well you say he's a DE or DT, but he needs to put more weight on that Ott would.
I don't get your reasoning and think it's funny that you are so obsessed with the weights of players, and don't think they'll put weight on weight or that they can't handle it.
If KF has recruited them as DL, he thinks they have the frame to handle it and can make that position work.
you can't decypher or won't which is it
it is really simple
Vencus needs 10 to 15 lbs to be a solid LB rather than 40 to 50 lbs to be a de
currently 225 + 10 to 15 =235 to 240 lbs vs 225 +40-50 lbs = 265 to 275 de
Ott 235 +5-10 lbs = 240-245 lbs to be a solid lb vs 235 + 40-50 lb= 275-285 lb DE
again why does it have to be massive weight gain vs minor muscle weight
it is really simple
Vencus needs 10 to 15 lbs to be a solid LB rather than 40 to 50 lbs to be a de
currently 225 + 10 to 15 =235 to 240 lbs vs 225 +40-50 lbs = 265 to 275 de
Ott 235 +5-10 lbs = 240-245 lbs to be a solid lb vs 235 + 40-50 lb= 275-285 lb DE
again why does it have to be massive weight gain vs minor muscle weight
hawkfarmer
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probably because they are being recruited as DL. That's why. They have the frame to put on the weight. We need more athletic DEs, that's why. If they were better off putting on a little weight I'm sure that is what the staff would do and make them linebackers, but until that happens they are recruited as DL and that is how you project these lighter but big framed DL recruits.
hawkfarmer
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Why because he is a few inches taller. What if Venckus and Ott are a broader shouldered and can actually handle the weight more?
Until KF says they are LBs they are DL in my book. Also both were asked about the effect of their position coach leaving Iowa (this would be Kaz) and I can't recall what they said, but both are committed to Iowa still. This makes me think they are being recruited as DL.
I'm surpised herby. For a guy who follows the recruiting services and lives/dies by the stars you believe these guys are both goin to different positions. hmm
hawkfarmer
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I'm sure that recruiting gurus and talent evaluators would have listed you as CB even though your high school called you a LB. The coaches aren't telling recruiting services what these kids are, they are being evaluated and then placed.
hawkfarmer
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Nope, just thought it was dumb to make those assumptions, however you do come up with quite a few stupid ideas, so maybe people just assume that what you post is dumb.
superfan12
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if kf has them listed as a de and they need to put on 30 - 40 lbs while putting on 10 or 15 lbs makes them solid for a lb then i think you can figure the guy isnt athletic enough to be a lb.
kf and staff have moved a lot of guys from what they were expected to be. clark was a lb when he to school, gallery was a te when first started, hitchens was originally a safety. those are just a few.
it isnt just about how much weight they must put on. if a kid isnt very quick from sideline to sideline they arent a lb, but if they can put on 40 lbs they may be a very athletic de. im going to trust the staff on this.
kf and staff have moved a lot of guys from what they were expected to be. clark was a lb when he to school, gallery was a te when first started, hitchens was originally a safety. those are just a few.
it isnt just about how much weight they must put on. if a kid isnt very quick from sideline to sideline they arent a lb, but if they can put on 40 lbs they may be a very athletic de. im going to trust the staff on this.
