Probably going to get hated on for this...

[judzeehawk]

Getting pretty tired of the we are only IOWA and get over it! We are IOWA and we deserve better than what happened today!

 

[Seth53]

Getting pretty tired of the we are only IOWA and get over it! We are IOWA and we deserve better than what happened today!

Agreed. At one point, we were truly the bullies of the B1G. Respected, maybe even a little feared, etc.

No longer.

And this "we're only Iowa" mantra is just stupid....tell that to Kansas State, Utah, TCU, Northwestern, etc.

 

[ThunderHawk]

trollfail

 

[hawkfan340]

That's my point, bringing in a successful coach doesn't mean that success will translate to a new program. Rich Rod goes to Michigan and craps the bed, then goes to Arizona and just beat Oregon a couple weeks ago and Arizona is on the rise. You just never know. I just think that at Iowa, a few seasons of decent bowl games with a BCS bowl every now and then is about as good as it can get. Not saying Iowa will never win a National Championship, but the odds aren't exactly in our favor.

RichRod seems to imply that Lloyd sabotaged him at Michigan. Not sure how credible that is, but Lloyd did use his influence to bring in his former assistant Hoke after RichRod was driven out. If true, it would be hard to succeed when he had someone poisoning his boss' ear against him the whole time. Even with Michigan resources at his disposal.

 

[Thawki]

Agreed. At one point, we were truly the bullies of the B1G. Respected, maybe even a little feared, etc.

No longer.

And this "we're only Iowa" mantra is just stupid....tell that to Kansas State, Utah, TCU, Northwestern, etc.

Iowa under KF has won more conference championships than KSU under Snyder. Although you are talking up KSU, Utah, TCU and Northwestern right now Iowa has been more successful as a program than any of those teams. You guys can ***** all you want, and I am not defending KF, but we have been a better program than any of those you mention, whether it was under KF, Hayden or the history of our program before them.

You guys can say all you want about not being satisfied with this or that. But when someone tells you to look at the history of a program and use that as a guide to what you are seeing now, there just might be something to that.

 

[FBletterman]

Okay guys,
First off, this is football so chill. Some of you seem to have way too much invested in this team the way you are acting. If you are a Hawk fan and haven't learned that 8 win seasons with a 10 win season scattered in every 5-10 years is Iowa's ceiling, then I don't know what to tell you. Iowa is not a program that will ever be able to recruit the blue chippers like Alabama, Ohio State, Michigan, and fill in the blank. Now, I have been an Iowa fan since birth and it sucks when they lose, but its not the end of the freaking world! Its nice however, knowing that every year there is a great chance for Iowa to make it to a bowl game which is awesome! Look at the Clones, we have it way better now then they ever will.
Secondly, quit with this CJB/JR stuff. Just watch the game and enjoy it. IMO if CJB gets tossed into that game it probably wouldn't have turned out any different. He didn't look that great last week when he was in, apart from the 20 yard QB draw. I agree though, it would have been nice to at least see CJB get a series or two to switch it up and see if anything could change to pace of the game. The O-line today was not up to par to say the least, which didn't help out JR any. The funny thing is, if it were CJB in there the whole time people would be calling for JR's number. Also, any of you wishing for JR to get hurt today...wow, you are pathetic.

Anyways, go ahead and hit the thumbs down over here------------------------------------------------->

 

[FBletterman]

Yeah, it might be just a game but given the FB program generates 60 million a year for our University and countless millions to the local economy; our coach is paid roughly 5 million a year make no mistake weather you like it or not it is kinda serious business.

 

[stevoskin]

Yeah, it might be just a game but given the FB program generates 60 million a year for our University and countless millions to the local economy; our coach is paid roughly 5 million a year make no mistake weather you like it or not it is kinda serious business.

No doubt it generates $$$, not sure what the numbers are but I'm curious how much money the program was generating at the time Ferentz was hired compared to now. He has brought the program back to where Fry had it before his last years, and has maintained what I would call success barring a couple of down years. A lot of that big money you are talking about is because of what Ferentz has done here.

 

[Hawke]

No doubt it generates $$$, not sure what the numbers are but I'm curious how much money the program was generating at the time Ferentz was hired compared to now. He has brought the program back to where Fry had it before his last years, and has maintained what I would call success barring a couple of down years. A lot of that big money you are talking about is because of what Ferentz has done here.

Dont dismiss the B1G Network money talk.

 

[stevoskin]

Dont dismiss the B1G Network money talk.

That money will always be there now. Just saying that Ferentz resurrected this program, and no doubt contributed to the financial production of the football program.

 

[OkstHawk]

That's my point, bringing in a successful coach doesn't mean that success will translate to a new program. Rich Rod goes to Michigan and craps the bed, then goes to Arizona and just beat Oregon a couple weeks ago and Arizona is on the rise. You just never know. I just think that at Iowa, a few seasons of decent bowl games with a BCS bowl every now and then is about as good as it can get. Not saying Iowa will never win a National Championship, but the odds aren't exactly in our favor.

You do just realize you made my point right? Why would Arizona ever bring in a new coach...they could get worse. But, like you said "You just never know."

 

[DesMoinesHawki]

Okay guys,
First off, this is football so chill. Some of you seem to have way too much invested in this team the way you are acting. If you are a Hawk fan and haven't learned that 8 win seasons with a 10 win season scattered in every 5-10 years is Iowa's ceiling, then I don't know what to tell you. Iowa is not a program that will ever be able to recruit the blue chippers like Alabama, Ohio State, Michigan, and fill in the blank. Now, I have been an Iowa fan since birth and it sucks when they lose, but its not the end of the freaking world! Its nice however, knowing that every year there is a great chance for Iowa to make it to a bowl game which is awesome! Look at the Clones, we have it way better now then they ever will.
Secondly, quit with this CJB/JR stuff. Just watch the game and enjoy it. IMO if CJB gets tossed into that game it probably wouldn't have turned out any different. He didn't look that great last week when he was in, apart from the 20 yard QB draw. I agree though, it would have been nice to at least see CJB get a series or two to switch it up and see if anything could change to pace of the game. The O-line today was not up to par to say the least, which didn't help out JR any. The funny thing is, if it were CJB in there the whole time people would be calling for JR's number. Also, any of you wishing for JR to get hurt today...wow, you are pathetic.

Anyways, go ahead and hit the thumbs down over here------------------------------------------------->

Regards,
Kurt Farents

 

[OkstHawk]

Iowa under KF has won more conference championships than KSU under Snyder. Although you are talking up KSU, Utah, TCU and Northwestern right now Iowa has been more successful as a program than any of those teams. You guys can ***** all you want, and I am not defending KF, but we have been a better program than any of those you mention, whether it was under KF, Hayden or the history of our program before them.

You guys can say all you want about not being satisfied with this or that. But when someone tells you to look at the history of a program and use that as a guide to what you are seeing now, there just might be something to that.

Hilarious post. Poll the entire US college football media and ask them where Iowa ranks as a football program compared to KSU, Utah, TCU and Northwestern...you aren't going to like the answer because Iowa is at the bottom of that list.

 

[DesMoinesHawki]

Is there a "booooooo" button?

 

[stevoskin]

You do just realize you made my point right? Why would Arizona ever bring in a new coach...they could get worse. But, like you said "You just never know."

Ya, you never know. People here act like a new coach will guarantee Iowa the playoffs every year. People don't like to hear that it isn't gonna happen.

 

[Bigtenchamp]

Okay guys,
First off, this is football so chill. Some of you seem to have way too much invested in this team the way you are acting. If you are a Hawk fan and haven't learned that 8 win seasons with a 10 win season scattered in every 5-10 years is Iowa's ceiling, then I don't know what to tell you. Iowa is not a program that will ever be able to recruit the blue chippers like Alabama, Ohio State, Michigan, and fill in the blank. Now, I have been an Iowa fan since birth and it sucks when they lose, but its not the end of the freaking world! Its nice however, knowing that every year there is a great chance for Iowa to make it to a bowl game which is awesome! Look at the Clones, we have it way better now then they ever will.
Secondly, quit with this CJB/JR stuff. Just watch the game and enjoy it. IMO if CJB gets tossed into that game it probably wouldn't have turned out any different. He didn't look that great last week when he was in, apart from the 20 yard QB draw. I agree though, it would have been nice to at least see CJB get a series or two to switch it up and see if anything could change to pace of the game. The O-line today was not up to par to say the least, which didn't help out JR any. The funny thing is, if it were CJB in there the whole time people would be calling for JR's number. Also, any of you wishing for JR to get hurt today...wow, you are pathetic.

Anyways, go ahead and hit the thumbs down over here------------------------------------------------->

The funny thing is that you probably think you have some sort of mature perspective here.

But burying one's head in the sand makes them blind.