predict next years 8 or 9 man rotation
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deanvogs
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I think at the beginning of the season we go with:
G-Gesell
G-Oglesby
G-Marble
F-White
F-McCabe
I think Woodbury moves into the Starting lineup, (just as with White this year), and pushes his way into the starting lineup before conference play.
These are just guesses at this point though, and I'm not sure why people get their panties in a bunch on these boards if everyone doesn't agree with them on what they think the starting lineups, or next years minutes will look like. I do recall several people getting blasted because they said that we would start Basabe and McCabe at the F spots instead of a true C........I also don't recall anyone predicting our starting lineup to be Marble, Oglesby, Gatens, White, and McCabe before the season started.
G-Gesell
G-Oglesby
G-Marble
F-White
F-McCabe
I think Woodbury moves into the Starting lineup, (just as with White this year), and pushes his way into the starting lineup before conference play.
These are just guesses at this point though, and I'm not sure why people get their panties in a bunch on these boards if everyone doesn't agree with them on what they think the starting lineups, or next years minutes will look like. I do recall several people getting blasted because they said that we would start Basabe and McCabe at the F spots instead of a true C........I also don't recall anyone predicting our starting lineup to be Marble, Oglesby, Gatens, White, and McCabe before the season started.
Stop right here. After seeing this, the rest of your post is not worth reading.
White may be able to play the 3-spot for a few minutes a game, but his BEST spot is power forward. At power forward, he creates significant mismatches and yet can hold his own defensively and rebounding. At the 3-spot, he would struggle defensively against quicker players.
SirJamaLot
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Agree 100%, How many of you feel Baasbe will transfer after this season and go back to a smaller school back home? His best position is power forward and posting up or finishing around the hoop, unfortunately he is only 6'7 and may be undersized for most Big Ten teams. If Baasbe does leave Fran would still have plenty of post players to work with:
White, McCabe, Woodbury, Meyer, Olaseni
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SirJamaLot
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Personally, I hope he stays and works his butt off to get better because he is very athletic and a great shot blocker but he was so inconsistent this yr, hopefully with maturity he will be more consistent next yr.
Firehawk11
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I do not think we are overestimating anyone. If we had a terrible team this year and solely relying on our incoming freshman I would agree. We will have a infusion of talent along with returning the core of the team. I think we can expect a winning season in BIG next year. Fans are finally having fun speculating the next season. That is a good thing.
clicheusername3
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That team gets pwned on the reg.
Oglesby will not start over Marble, and Marble avg'd over 30 min, a game this year and started at least 26 games. no way he only get 27 minutes as a reserve at 3 different position, as to White he can be a 3 on offense and a 4 on defense and will more than likely start the game listed as a 3, this is the advantage over other teams that Fran has with this group in versatility,
but the majority of you are so narrow minded to look at every possible option available to Fran, this upcoming fall
the ref's singling out 1-2 players to be their whipping boy will not have the same affect it did this year, Fran will have White and Meyer to step in for McCabe or Basabe if either get into early foul trouble not to mention the other positions,
but since the narrow minded people can't or won't acknowledge this. to bad you refuse to look at this
RocknRollface
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What? So who is going to guard the other teams 3/small forward when Iowa is on defense?
Ill go ahead and state the obvious, you don't know what your talking about.
i see Marble as the one to take on the role of guarding the other teams top scorer, and White will guard 3's as well, every 3 in the league is not this magical speed demon you claim. other than OSU and MSU i have not seen any of the super quick speedsters that are supposed to be able to run circles around White
you are the one, making up things that are just not there
you are the one, making up things that are just not there
Let's assume for a minute that White can defend most 3's. Herby, do you think it's a great idea to have your best defensive rebounder on the perimeter?
Also, one of the biggest strengths of White is his ability to beat his big man opponent down the floor in the transition game. The opposing power forward might not be as aggressive in trying for offensive rebounds when he has to worry about chasing down White. This siginficant advantage is lost somewhat when White is at small forward.
SirJamaLot
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White is the best power forward on the team. He and Woodbury will be fun to watch at the 4-5 positions for the next few years. Meyer, McCabe, Baasbe, and Olaseni provide great depth but if White figures out a way to keep improving he could be all big ten before he is done, you don't take your best power forward and move him to a different position.
deanvogs
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Then you are saying the Iowa will get pwned on the reg.
It really matters very little who starts....Woodbury will probably force his way into the lineup (maybe even from day one). The team will be much deeper than this year. Fran has even more options now, and if a starter isn't producing, then Fran will replace him.
clicheusername3
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That is correct. I'm already getting the massively over-hyped vibe again.
"predict next years 8 or 9 man rotation"
Marble/White: for sure
Woody/Gesell: barring unforeseen frosh syndrome
McCabe/Basabe: proven role players
Oglesby: we need shooters
May: Fran thought he had to best spring of any player on the team last year and he's the only senior
That's 8. Everyone talks about Meyer, Ingram, Clemmons, Olaseni but there are only so many minutes. If any of the 8 above get less than 15 min/gm it's got to be considered a surprise given Fran's past usage of them. That means it's unlikely that any of the 4 below get more than say 10/gm this coming year. Of course it's possible, but it would be a surprise.
Marble/White: for sure
Woody/Gesell: barring unforeseen frosh syndrome
McCabe/Basabe: proven role players
Oglesby: we need shooters
May: Fran thought he had to best spring of any player on the team last year and he's the only senior
That's 8. Everyone talks about Meyer, Ingram, Clemmons, Olaseni but there are only so many minutes. If any of the 8 above get less than 15 min/gm it's got to be considered a surprise given Fran's past usage of them. That means it's unlikely that any of the 4 below get more than say 10/gm this coming year. Of course it's possible, but it would be a surprise.
herby has white at the 3 which means he has mccabe or basabe at the 4, woodbury at 5, gesell at 1 and marble at 2. so i will try to guess how they guard the other team. since he said white will play 3 and guard the 4 that means basabe or mccabe has to guard the 3 and everyone else can stick to regular assignments. but if it is mccabe then he is less quick than white so he should guard the 5. this will allow marble to guard the best player between the 2 and 3. then gesell needs to take the 2nd best player of the guards either 1, 2, or 3. this leaves woodbury on the worst guard. or we just guard 4 guys man to man and let woodbury stand in the middle of the lane as a deterrent and post help. those sound like great defensive strategies.
RocknRollface
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You clearly don't understand what a "3" is.
You though Jon Shurna was a 3.
Most college basketball teams 3 is a guard type player.
Iowa may be able to go zone and make it work sometimes to have White, Woodbury and Basabe on the floor together. Basabe is actually probably quicker than White latterly.
Stanzi
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I would be very surprised if we only went with an 8 or 9 man rotation. Here is my ideal starting lineup:
PG - Gesell
SG - Marble
SF - White
PF - Basabe
C - Woodbury
I would like to see Oglesby, McCabe, Clemmons, Olaseni, and Meyer play quality minutes off the bench. Ingram can play here and there, and May preferably won't see much time on the floor. I appreciate his loyalty to the program, but...he just doesn't give us much.
PG - Gesell
SG - Marble
SF - White
PF - Basabe
C - Woodbury
I would like to see Oglesby, McCabe, Clemmons, Olaseni, and Meyer play quality minutes off the bench. Ingram can play here and there, and May preferably won't see much time on the floor. I appreciate his loyalty to the program, but...he just doesn't give us much.
Ding, Ding, Ding. If we play White, Basabe/McCabe, Woodbury we have to go zone on defense. These guys just don't have the lateral quickness to all play together in a man scheme. We need to get more athletic not less.
It's unfortunate that 3 our more experienced players all play the same position, but we don't gain anything by playing one out of a position. There are enough minutes for White, McCabe, Basabe, and Woodbury to all play the post positions. No need to play any on the perimeter for extensive time. Especially given McCabe and Basabe are foul prone, and I suspect Woodbury might be foul prone as a freshman. Lets kids play hard and play fresh.
