Portal / roster thread 24/25
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99topdawg
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We graduate a lot of guys to graduation plus there will be those that leave early. There will be the usual attrition, both scholarship players and walk-ons. That could be 40 guys right there (we lose a lot of walk-ons every year and they go unnoticed).
We currently have 14 commits. I assume we add a few in the portal.
If others need to be cut, they will be walk-ons or those that are on scholarship but don't and won't contribute.
I will be interested to see how many current walk-ons get scholarships, since the roster size and scholarship limit are both 105.
We currently have 14 commits. I assume we add a few in the portal.
If others need to be cut, they will be walk-ons or those that are on scholarship but don't and won't contribute.
I will be interested to see how many current walk-ons get scholarships, since the roster size and scholarship limit are both 105.
Wow 131?? I didn't realize they ballooned it up that much with walk ons. This has been what it's gonna be for awhile now so it's not out of left field. Now that the covid 5 yr guys will be gone that'll help I know we had a few of them still. So 85 is still scholly limit with 105 total being on all rosters starting next yr? Should be interesting.
NorthKCHawk
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This rule is a good thing. Big time programs are circumventing schollie limits with NIL money. Medium schools like Iowa and Nebbie are too. This is the type of rule that protects coaches from themselves. 105 kids is already a massive amount of players to manage. There needs to be reasonable limits. Also, as Fry noted, a lot of these kids should be at Drake or UNI where they might be able to get on the field, rather than being sold the Rudy dream of seeing the field for Iowa.
100% 105 is plenty. It's almost surprising how many kids all over are willing to bet on themselves to that extent. Iowa wasn't paying for 20 plus kids schooling through NIL were they? Fully funding them as if they were on scholly? That seems like a lot of kids considering most have little to no path to ever play. Our Swarm seems to be struggling for donations and that doesn't seem like the best way to be allocating it. (not that guys like Cade and Brown were either) But at least those guys had higher ceilings of reward on the table.
NorthKCHawk
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I am sure there are also a lot of Rudy type guys who just want to keep playing and love Iowa. Second team all conference in a small school in Iowa. Division II skill set, but grew up a Hawk and are happy to be a scout team guy and be a part of the program. That is a what a walk-on should look like. NIL has changed the game forever. This is a reasonable rule to counterbalance that. NIL should be for the guys on the field who are helping to bring in the TV money.
I agree things are different now that's for sure. When NIL funds are limited in the way that Iowas are compared to our competition we have to allocate it smartly. There'd be exceptions to how you'd maybe want to try enticing certain important walk on to stay (say a stud kicker)
I get how from the NIL perspective they have their reasons for doing what they do the same as the coaches. Coaches are team building and NIL companies are often self serving looking for good advertising. Marrying those things together is tricky.
Fryowa
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There's a Gramstad kid from up here who went to West Lyon (really small 2A school that has a ridiculously good sports history going way back), he played 4 years at Northwestern-Orange City which is a pretty good NAIA team that won a "natty" in '22 and finished 2nd in '23. He had a year of eligibility left and I guessed always dreamed about playing for nebraska so he bailed and went there for his last year after Rhule offered him. Obviously knew he'd never sniff the field but wanted to say he was a husker.
Crazy side note, he was unanimously touted everywhere as the best NAIA player in the entire country, but doesn't even catch the depth chart at a P4 school. Wild how huge the talent gap is and how insane every jump is from HS-->NAIA-->D3-->D2-->FCS-->FBS-->P4.
Hawkboys
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Not likely. Does Kirk's son-in-law have any eligibility left?
Then again, why am I complaining?
Stratton had more yards in the air on one play than Michigan had all game Saturday.
Ergo, we should have beat OSU and are in rhe championship against Oregon.
Bordone
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No limit other than title 9 and roster size.
Saw that and my God I hope he doesn't want to come to Iowa. He'd be Cade 2.0 (minus the injuries) He's pretty much the same size and type of player. He's not a duel threat. He's a pocket passer that's used to working with a QB guru of a HC and 5 star WRs all over the place and he still only put up pedestrian numbers. How's he going to do in our O with a totally revamped Oline no KJ and an underwhelming WR core? I mean not to shit on us or anything but trying to look at it from a QB looking to transfer to us for 1 yr I'm seeing more negatives then positives. I would think we'd be looking for Qbs with multiple yrs yet to play then a 1 and done stop gap type.
I mean...yah. I dunno about how much he benefits the Hawks for your stated reasons.
But, Michigan? Clearly they need a qb, but didn't they just buy the single most expensive QB ever from LSU? Does Auburn need a QB that doesn't feel he has a future at USC? Can't believe they are in any kind of serious need.
So....Louisville or Iowa? Who would you choose if you couldn't get on a team that is a (generally) perennial playoff contender like Michigan or Auburn.
Again, not sure I'd want him as a fan/amateur coach that I am for your reasons above. But I can't imagine Lester and/or Kirk isn't at least entertaining the thought or he wouldn't release it as a possibility.
That's the more troubling question. Let's hope Lester knows more than we suspect about who's gonna be on the line and who's gonna be catching balls next season. Or has the ability to overturn a head coach who seems determined to combine a west coast offense and runs up the gut...despite that not working for 5 years running.
Seth53
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I watched West Lyon win the 2A FB championship at the dome. Spirit Lake was out of it at the half.
I do get Iowa kicking the tires on him. I do beggars can't be choosers we aren't really in a position to be crazy picky. If an experienced qb of stature shows mutual interest you gotta see what's what. But I hope he's not the guy for the reasons I stated I don't think it'd be a good fit. From his angle either like he's wanting to showcase himself and try to get to the NFL I would assume. Well Iowa would be the last place a one and done transfer QB should want to go and do that.
They'll be other options out there portal isn't even open yet and I suspect it's gonna be insane. I've seen a lot of Hawkeye fans go nuts over Moss though and I just don't understand it. Taking Cade when we did made way more sense then taking him would. Maybe that's just me.
