Poor NCAA Oversight- Bad NBA Draft Rule

[troy]

The NCAA's oversight in Men's D-1 basketball is terrible! Jim Calhoun allows assistants to take the fall for recruiting violations, and Teflon John Calipari stays one step ahead of the law. The NBA's "one-year of college" rule is also hurting college basketball by creating an atmosphere ripe for rule-breaking. One successful year of "playing" or "coaching" in college is worth millions in future salaries. Many elite high school players are not interested in college, but are forced to go for a year in order to get to the NBA, and coaches are pressured to recruit "one-year players" because if coaches don't win, they'll get canned. NBA's "one-year rule" is not about promoting education, either. NBA players can well-afford to get college degrees at a later time at their convenience.

 

[RedHawk]

I agree with what you're saying. I think the NBA needs a minimum age of 21 requirement. You can't drink or go to casinos until you're 21 - obvious age that society considers you are an adult. Players can choose to go overseas or play in the "D" league or choose college as long as strict academic progress requirements are met.

 

[CAARHawk]

I have come to the conclusion that the NCAA should threaten to go back to a freshman ineligible system until the NBA changes this rule.

 

[JoeHawki]

I would like to see the NBA adopt the rule they have in football. After you have completed your JR, year before you can enter the draft for the NBA. If college doesn't work out for the player, then he would have to go another route. I would say not even the D-NBA, because then the players have a chance to get called up. So in my opinion,
either they complete 3 years of college, or wait until their class completes their JR year, if they choose not to go the college route. It would also take away some of that entitlement these kids these days feel.

 

[AHawk1]

Its really a half year of college rule. I wonder how many of those kids even finish the 2nd semester.

 

[tm3308]

I would like to see the NBA adopt the rule they have in football. After you have completed your JR, year before you can enter the draft for the NBA. If college doesn't work out for the player, then he would have to go another route. I would say not even the D-NBA, because then the players have a chance to get called up. So in my opinion,
either they complete 3 years of college, or wait until their class completes their JR year, if they choose not to go the college route. It would also take away some of that entitlement these kids these days feel.

I don't mind the way that baseball does things. You can come out straight from high school, but if you go to college, it's a 2-year (minimum) requirement.

 

[PlanoHawk]

no age limit in baseball- remove the limit and let the kids go to to the NBA at their own risk. love the minimum in baseball as well- this would most likely end calipari's collegiate coaching career.

 

[troy]

Its really a half year of college rule. I wonder how many of those kids even finish the 2nd semester.

Great point! What kind of coach allows a "student-athlete" to compete when that "student-athlete" is skipping classes the entire 2nd semester? It makes no sense.

 

[JHHawk]

I have come around to the baseball rule...either come to college for 3 years or go pro immediately. Enough with the charade of ''student-athletes''.

 

[hawkifan74]

While I would love to keep kids in college longer, as I believe it matures them both academically and physically, when it comes down to it they are just trying to get a job. In no other situation would we ask someone to waite if there was a job available to them. I know that I will get bashed on this one, but really it is that simple.

 

[tm3308]

While I would love to keep kids in college longer, as I believe it matures them both academically and physically, when it comes down to it they are just trying to get a job. In no other situation would we ask someone to waite if there was a job available to them. I know that I will get bashed on this one, but really it is that simple.

Except that basketball only lasts so long, just like any other sport. And a vast majority of pro athletes are broke within 5 years of retirement, because they never learned how to manage their money. If they come to college, they should stay for AT LEAST two years. Universities are not meant to just be a free farm system. They are meant to EDUCATE the student-athletes. I know that's a naive concept, but it's what it's supposed to be about.

And I'm sick of the "gun for hire" approach to college basketball. Who is really going to remember John Wall as a Kentucky PG? No one but KU fans. Tyler Hansborough was one of a dying breed in this new environment: the program icon. He will go down right with Jordan, Worthy, etc. Wall will never go down next to Pat Riley or Louis Dampier, or even Rajon Rondo.

 

[IATrainMaster101]

While I would love to keep kids in college longer, as I believe it matures them both academically and physically, when it comes down to it they are just trying to get a job. In no other situation would we ask someone to waite if there was a job available to them. I know that I will get bashed on this one, but really it is that simple.

True but not too many places do you get a multi million dollar job out of high school either. The job can require whatever it wants within the boundries of the law.

 

[troy]

Except that basketball only lasts so long, just like any other sport. And a vast majority of pro athletes are broke within 5 years of retirement, because they never learned how to manage their money. If they come to college, they should stay for AT LEAST two years. Universities are not meant to just be a free farm system. They are meant to EDUCATE the student-athletes. I know that's a naive concept, but it's what it's supposed to be about.

And I'm sick of the "gun for hire" approach to college basketball. Who is really going to remember John Wall as a Kentucky PG? No one but KU fans. Tyler Hansborough was one of a dying breed in this new environment: the program icon. He will go down right with Jordan, Worthy, etc. Wall will never go down next to Pat Riley or Louis Dampier, or even Rajon Rondo.

I totally agree with you. This "one and done" stuff is a joke. I also agree with your comment that you made before about baseball. I really don't blame the athletes for wanting to go to a top program because that's where they will be seen. I will never forget John Wall's "one-handed catch, cross-over, left-handed dunk" against IU this year. That was one of the best dunks I have ever seen, and I saw it because Kentucky vs. IU was on national TV.

If the athletes are only going to be there a year, I can understand why some of them seem to stretch the rules to get into these elite schools. They won't get elite coaching or premium media exposure at JUCO's or low-level D-1 schools, and they won't be around for their sophomore year to pay any punishment for their actions. The system needs to be overhauled.

 

[Husky28]

Except that basketball only lasts so long, just like any other sport. And a vast majority of pro athletes are broke within 5 years of retirement, because they never learned how to manage their money. If they come to college, they should stay for AT LEAST two years. Universities are not meant to just be a free farm system. They are meant to EDUCATE the student-athletes. I know that's a naive concept, but it's what it's supposed to be about.

And I'm sick of the "gun for hire" approach to college basketball. Who is really going to remember John Wall as a Kentucky PG? No one but KU fans. Tyler Hansborough was one of a dying breed in this new environment: the program icon. He will go down right with Jordan, Worthy, etc. Wall will never go down next to Pat Riley or Louis Dampier, or even Rajon Rondo.

While I agree that anyone who has a chance to get a degree (especially a free one through scholarship) is passing up a golden opportunity. I don't agree that the school route teaches these kids how to manage their money...(unless you taking the angle of not having much while in school... ) Very few schools even discuss personal financial management let alone teach students how to properly manage their finances. Managing money should start long before college and then it's the responsibilty of the "adult" to manage their finances... As stated before, I think making kids wait until a year of college is completed or something similiar goes against the grain of the "free enterprise" system that has made this country the most successful country in the world... the more we regulate, the more those freedoms are taken away... better stop before I get myself worked up into a frenzy. LOL

 

[HawkeyeMike23]

While I agree that anyone who has a chance to get a degree (especially a free one through scholarship) is passing up a golden opportunity. I don't agree that the school route teaches these kids how to manage their money...(unless you taking the angle of not having much while in school... ) Very few schools even discuss personal financial management let alone teach students how to properly manage their finances. Managing money should start long before college and then it's the responsibilty of the "adult" to manage their finances... As stated before, I think making kids wait until a year of college is completed or something similiar goes against the grain of the "free enterprise" system that has made this country the most successful country in the world... the more we regulate, the more those freedoms are taken away... better stop before I get myself worked up into a frenzy. LOL

This rule is not going against the "free enterprise" system or anything like that. The NBA has the right to do whatever they want to protect their product. Forcing kids to wait a year after high school reduces the chances that NBA teams draft kids like Korlene Young or Robert Swift or someone who is just not at all prepared for the league. They also get a years worth of free publicity for their future players while they are playing in college. If Durant or Wall or Rose had come straight out of high school very few people would have known who they were. That one year in college helps the league, and also the player, by increasing their marketing potential.

 

[GhostofBTT]

This rule is not going against the "free enterprise" system or anything like that. The NBA has the right to do whatever they want to protect their product. Forcing kids to wait a year after high school reduces the chances that NBA teams draft kids like Korlene Young or Robert Swift or someone who is just not at all prepared for the league. They also get a years worth of free publicity for their future players while they are playing in college. If Durant or Wall or Rose had come straight out of high school very few people would have known who they were. That one year in college helps the league, and also the player, by increasing their marketing potential.

Someone finally figured it out.

The NBA isn't going to do what is the best for the NCAA, or even what is best for their players. They are going to do what is best for the NBA and its teams.

Forcing players to stay in school for 2 years will hurt the NBA. It will keep the best young players out of them game. Allowing kids right out of high school was bad for the teams (which was entirely the team's fault, and the NBA had to protect them from themselves).

The NCAA serves as a free minor league complete with the best hype machine in the world. The NBA would be absolutely insane not to exploit it. This is capitalism at its best!

 

[ssckelley]

I do not recall any other profession where the employer is forced to hire only after the prospective employee has completed 1 or 2 years of college. The NBA is an employer and a 18 year "adult" should have the right to apply for a job out of High School. Forcing them to go to college, IMO, is hurting the NCAA because now there is so much paridy in the college game (see George Mason and Butler). Force these coaches to go out and recruit kids that actually want a college education and is not merely using the school as a "marketing tool" to jump into the NBA.

 

[Husky28]

This rule is not going against the "free enterprise" system or anything like that. The NBA has the right to do whatever they want to protect their product. Forcing kids to wait a year after high school reduces the chances that NBA teams draft kids like Korlene Young or Robert Swift or someone who is just not at all prepared for the league. They also get a years worth of free publicity for their future players while they are playing in college. If Durant or Wall or Rose had come straight out of high school very few people would have known who they were. That one year in college helps the league, and also the player, by increasing their marketing potential.

I can buy that and makes a lot of sense. It is free enterprise when a business (NBA) sets guidelines to police itself to maximize profits... as any successful business should within the law. The NCAA (business) hasn't been able to counter it by not being able to keep these kids in their system longer... it's their move.

I think people who say it's bad for kids and such... whether true or not... don't seem to understand you can earn all the money you are a capable of... once you're outside the NCAA/amateur status. It all depends (as a player) what path you want to chose... it's still their choice. I understand you increase your odds with a degree (as my resume would reflect), but it's not a guarantee either... I wonder how many people would feel the same way if those same kids started up a very successful business at 19, did well for 15 years or so and then went broke. Would we say it was bad for the kid because he didn't get degree or just say "that's the breaks"...? Maybe we should force that same kid through college and say they can't have a business until they have a degree or be at least 21? (IMO that would be a stupid idea.) Would less of them go broke? Maybe. Then again, maybe not... it's all about the individual and their willingness to learn from mistakes and/or apply advice received from those who have succeeded...

 

[Palpatine]

I do not recall any other profession where the employer is forced to hire only after the prospective employee has completed 1 or 2 years of college.

Actually, there's a profession where you need 4 years of college. It's called the public education system. See Board of Educational Examiners

 

[tm3308]

Someone finally figured it out.

The NBA isn't going to do what is the best for the NCAA, or even what is best for their players. They are going to do what is best for the NBA and its teams.

Forcing players to stay in school for 2 years will hurt the NBA. It will keep the best young players out of them game. Allowing kids right out of high school was bad for the teams (which was entirely the team's fault, and the NBA had to protect them from themselves).

The NCAA serves as a free minor league complete with the best hype machine in the world. The NBA would be absolutely insane not to exploit it. This is capitalism at its best!

And forcing them to go to college for 1 year doesn't keep the best young players out of the game? There are busts in the draft whether or not the players are graduating high school or skipping spring semester classes.

I'm sick of seeing guys who are ready for the NBA out of high school play for a year in college. It hurts the college game, and it's a waste of time for the players.